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avidflyer
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

Some of you are under the impression that I want to rip this list apart and take a bunch of members with me... NOTHING could be farther from the truth.. 

My intention is to stay a member of this list and learn as much as possible... The "other" site is a place we can go to chat, flame, and carry on without pissing off anyone.

84KF
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Please read this sort of OT

If anyone is interested, Eskflyer and I will be "discussing" (cough...cough...) the "Federal Register / Vol. 69, No. 143 / Tuesday, July 27, 2004 / Rules and Regulations", also known as the "Final Rule" 

  He has agreed to actually read the document, when time permits, and present his opinions. What is encouraging is that the man was honest enough to admit that at this time he has NOT read it... as I suspect many of the group here has not either. 

   That's good enough for me as it shows that he is a free thinker, and not reliant on others to make decisions for him. Some of us live our lives based on our own thinking and judgement. Some, incapable of that, just sit back.., accept the words of others at factual, and when asked to prove those words, merely  retort "well..., that's what I was told." or as here, tend to quote the very commercial publication who's statements are being contested. Hello?

Stay abreast of this in the following days at http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/

And... please offer any input or questions you care to. 

Sugested reading beforehand is "Federal Register / Vol. 69, No. 143 / Tuesday, July 27, 2004 / Rules and Regulations" available for download, .pdf format, from the AOPA site:

 http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regsport.html 

Look for it in the "Related Documents" at the bottom of the page.



steve

FLIER(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

What I'm trying to figure out is why anyone would 

want to listen to another conversation of yours about 

that rule.



Let it go!



DO NOT ARCHIVE

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From: "84KF" <stevebenesh(at)comcast.net>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Please read this sort of OT



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If anyone is interested, Avidflyer and I will 

be "discussing" (cough...cough...) the "Federal 
	


Register / Vol. 69, No. 143 / Tuesday, July 27, 

2004 / Rules and Regulations", also known as 

the "Final Rule" 

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		    He has agreed to actually read the document, when 

time permits, and present his opinions. What is 
	


encouraging is that the man was honest enough to 

admit that at this time he has NOT read it... as I 

suspect many of the group here has not either. 

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		     That's good enough for me as it shows that he is 

a free thinker, and not reliant on others to make 
	


decisions for him. Some of us live our lives based on 

our own thinking and judgement. Some, incapable of 

that, just sit back.., accept the words of others at 

factual, and when asked to prove those words, merely  

retort "well..., that's what I was told." or as here, 

tend to quote the very commercial publication who's 

statements are being contested. Hello?

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		  Stay abreast of this in the following days at 

http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/
	


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		  And... please offer any input or questions you care 

to. 
	


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		  Sugested reading beforehand is "Federal Register / 

Vol. 69, No. 143 / Tuesday, July 27, 2004 / Rules and 
	


Regulations" available for download, .pdf format, 

from the AOPA site:

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http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regsport.html 
	


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		  Look for it in the "Related Documents" at the bottom 

of the page.
	


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steve





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FLIER(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

Don't worry guys.  You'all have fun over there.  

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From: "avidflyer" <depronalaska(at)yahoo.com>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Please read this sort of OT



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Some of you are under the impression that I want to 

rip this list apart and take a bunch of members with 
	


me... NOTHING could be farther from the truth.. 

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		  My intention is to stay a member of this list and 

learn as much as possible... The "other" site is a 
	


place we can go to chat, flame, and carry on without 

pissing off anyone.

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p=101784#101784
	


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Kitfoxv(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

"as here, tend to quote the very commercial publication who's statements are being contested. Hello?"



Hmm, must have hit someones sore spot eh? 

Guess that's why 84KF is now denied access. Gee, who has the access to do that? perhaps.....

MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

Steve sez:



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		  If anyone is interested, Avidflyer and I will be "discussing" 

(cough...cough...) the "Federal Register / Vol. 69, No. 143 / 

Tuesday, July 27, 2004 / Rules and Regulations", also known as the 

"Final Rule"...


	


I'm trying to figure out what your motivation is for beating this 

poor, bloody, mutilated, dismembered horse even further.  I can only 

come up with a few possibilities:



1. You're looking for validation.  You want someone to agree with you 

and you are willing to re-hash your point and suggest that others are 

not "free thinkers" as many times as necessary to reach that end. 

Seems rather pointless, really.



2. You like to argue.  You consider disagreements to be a form of recreation.



3. You believe that you are more clever than others, or even than the 

FAA.  You feel that you've found some hidden truth or loophole that 

the rest of us are too dense to realize and this provides you with a 

sense of satisfaction.  The more times you can bring it up, the more 

fulfilled you feel.



4. You're delusional.  You really do believe that "maximum takeoff 

weight" refers to "today's takeoff weight" or that the explanatory 

commentary in the federal register carries the same weight as the law 

as spelled out in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR).



5. You are trying to induce someone else to operate under your 

interpretation of the rules.  Could there be a more irresponsible 

motive?



Regardless, it's hard to imagine that even you are still enjoying 

this topic.  I hope you have fun with it on the other list.



Mike G.

N728KF

Kitfoxv(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

Mr Gibbs writes....



"4. You're delusional.  You really do believe that "maximum takeoff 

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		   weight" refers to "today's takeoff weight" or that the explanatory 

 commentary in the federal register carries the same weight as the law 

 as spelled out in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR)."


	


Mr Gibbs, 

 You are invited to post your opinions at... 



http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10



Be prepared to back up you statements if you do, and not just rant.





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fox5flyer(at)idealwifi.ne
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

What do you think Don, Mike?  This is the same 84kf (Steve) that has been

causing so much trouble.  Yank his new address?  He obviously isn't changing

his method of confrontation and will just continue to use our list to

dragoon our members to his new list.  This guy enjoys turmoil.  Getting into

an argument with him is what he wants.

Ban his IP address?

I'm not hearing anything back from Matt.

Deke

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n85ae

Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 403

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Please read this sort of OT

 	  fox5flyer(at)idealwifi.ne wrote: 	
		  continue to use our list to

dragoon our members to his new list. 

	




There's nobody on their list, but the two of them. I think they're lonely.

(Obviously for a reason). My three year old acts a lot like the way they do

when he's cooped up too much with nothing to do. Sometimes we turn on 

cartoons, or the muppets for him to watch. Maybe this might help here

too????

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: Please read this sort of OT

The Muppets eh???? Is Miss Piggy still there??? 



Do not archive!



The "eh" is a Canadian thing.



Noel



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