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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
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Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: Firestar bowling

Two years ago while at the Alvord gathering after  MV, Roger Hankins had brought a bowling ball with him on his trip. He first  dropped it from 2000 feet, which caused a lot of consternation and possibly  flash backs for John H and John W. I was going to film it, but decided that if I  did I would never see it through the view finder. I must say it was a memorable  event that probably should not be repeated. The sound of the wind through the  finger holes was quite unnerving. After John H, Gary Haley and John W had  departed, Roger began to wonder how far a ball would roll given the proper  speed. I would suggest that if you do this for your self, you should strive to  do it on a fully dry portion of the lake bed. If you look closely you can see  the mud rooster tail in the last part of the roll.

  

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6829470231367079848

  

 Larry, Oregon

  

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: Firestar bowling

"He first dropped it from 2000 feet, which caused a lot of 

consternation and possibly flash backs for John H and John W.

Larry, Oregon"



 Larry C:



The closer that ball got to the ground the more it looked like it was 

going to hit me between the eyes.  I stared at it for a few seconds, 

chickened out, did a 180, and hauled ass.  If it was going to hit me, 

it was going to hit me in the butt.  



john h

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planecrazzzy
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Firestar bowling

Back when I was going for my Private Ticket...I used to belong to AOPA

mostly to use their weather site....



 But in the back of one of their magazines , they asked questions....



 One of their questions was: Is it legal to drop a bowling ball from a plane?



 The answer is YES , but yer responsible for where it lands....

Gotta Fly...

Mike & "Jaz" in MN

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

| One of their questions was: Is it legal to drop a bowling ball from 

a plane?



| Mike



Mike:



How else ya gonna practice bombing?



john h

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a58r(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

Usta be somewhere in the FAA Rocks & Shoals (regs) bout dropping  

stuff NLT grains of sand! S'pose inflation got to that, also.

regards,

Bob N.    FireFly 070 Old Kolb

http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/



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d-m-hague(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

At 05:55 PM 3/19/2007, Bob Noyer wrote:

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Usta be somewhere in the FAA Rocks & Shoals (regs) bout dropping

stuff NLT grains of sand! S'pose inflation got to that, also.


	


I don't know where that was (or is), but I recall it too.  It was in 

reference to gliders (or maybe it was balloons) jettisoning ballast, which 

could only be "water or loose sand".  I guess the idea was that unlike 

larger objects, you didn't have to worry about where you dropped it.



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biglar

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

It wouldn't open for me.  Anyone else have this problem ??                     Lar.                 Do not Archive.



 On 3/19/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com (lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com)> wrote: [quote]  Two years ago while at the Alvord gathering after MV, Roger Hankins had brought a bowling ball with him on his trip. He first dropped it from 2000 feet, which caused a lot of consternation and possibly flash backs for John H and John W. I was going to film it, but decided that if I did I would never see it through the view finder. I must say it was a memorable event that probably should not be repeated. The sound of the wind through the finger holes was quite unnerving. After John H, Gary Haley and John W had departed, Roger began to wonder how far a ball would roll given the proper speed. I would suggest that if you do this for your self, you should strive to do it on a fully dry portion of the lake bed. If you look closely you can see the mud rooster tail in the last part of the roll. 

  

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6829470231367079848 

  

 Larry, Oregon

  

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Eugene Zimmerman

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

Hey Lar,

  Worked fine for me.



On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:



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		   It wouldn't open for me.  Anyone else have this  

 problem ??                     Lar.                 Do not Archive.



 On 3/19/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> wrote:

 Two years ago while at the Alvord gathering after MV, Roger Hankins  

 had brought a bowling ball with him on his trip. He first dropped  

 it from 2000 feet, which caused a lot of consternation and possibly  

 flash backs for John H and John W. I was going to film it, but  

 decided that if I did I would never see it through the view finder.  

 I must say it was a memorable event that probably should not be  

 repeated. The sound of the wind through the finger holes was quite  

 unnerving. After John H, Gary Haley and John W had departed, Roger  

 began to wonder how far a ball would roll given the proper speed. I  

 would suggest that if you do this for your self, you should strive  

 to do it on a fully dry portion of the lake bed. If you look  

 closely you can see the mud rooster tail in the last part of the roll.



 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6829470231367079848



 Larry, Oregon



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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:10 am Post subject: Firestar bowling

It was in

reference to gliders (or maybe it was balloons) jettisoning ballast, which

could only be "water or loose sand". >>



The difference is that water doesn`t fall in one lump. Neither does sand as 

balloonists normally drop it in handfulls. If they cut loose a sack then 

thats a different story. The authorities woudn`t like that,



Cheers



Pat

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: Firestar bowling

One of their questions was: Is it legal to drop a bowling ball from

a plane?>>



In my gliding days we used to take `puffballs` ( a large type of mushroom) 

in the two seater on wire launches and try to drop them on the winch 

operator. We had an ex barrage balloon winch with a cage to protect the 

operator in the case of a cable fail;ure. If you hit the cage with a 

puffball it would break into a cloud of bits and nearly choke the poor guy.



Cheers



Pat.

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: Firestar bowling

Hi,

 loved the bowling ball video. Bit dicey! A bit  bigger bounce could have hit the tail.  You should have put the music from  the Dam Busters on the sound track.

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

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JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Firestar bowling

 	  John Hauck wrote: 	
		  



The closer that ball got to the ground the more it looked like it was 

going to hit me between the eyes.  I stared at it for a few seconds, 

chickened out, did a 180, and hauled ass.  If it was going to hit me, 

it was going to hit me in the butt.  



john h

mkIII



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Hahahaha,



I about fell out of my chair laughing when I read that   How far did the ball hit from  where you had been standing ?   What did the 2000 foot fall do to the bowling ball ?



Mike

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R. Hankins

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 185
Location: Grants Pass, Oregon

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Firestar bowling

Here are a couple of pics of the ball and the splat-mark.  It did far less than I had expected to the mud, but had a greater effect on the spectators than I anticipated.  If I do it again it will be farther than 100yds from camp.

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R. Hankins

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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Location: Grants Pass, Oregon

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Firestar bowling

Now, if I could just get my hands on a watermellon.......

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

At 12:08 AM 3/22/2007, R. Hankins wrote:

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Now, if I could just get my hands on a watermellon.......


	


My home airport just closed (the usual, housing development  ).  There 

was a lady who lived across the river who hated airplanes of any kind.  If 

you were a bit low or close on downwind, she was on the phone to the 

airport manager to complain before you turned final.  One day I was flying 

a Quicksilver and she took and emailed pictures of me to "prove" that I was 

directly over her house (I wasn't, as the pictures clearly showed).  A 

local PPC pilot always said he was going to bring a watermelon up on the 

last day of the airport with her chimney a target.  Fortunately he wasn't 

as crazy as he talked...



-Dana



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JetPilot

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Firestar bowling

Man that looks like fun       I need to find a supply of cheap bowling balls, I am dreaming up all sorts of stuff...  What would it look like if it hit concrete, water, a old car, etc. etc.  How high would I need to drop to get it to terminal velocity ?  Even set up a video camera at the drop.   The possiblities are endless !!!



Mike

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ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

R. Hankins wrote:

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 Now, if I could just get my hands on a watermellon.......

 

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There's a story & video out in the wild somewhere about some 
	


homebuilders disposing of a farmer's excess pumpkins. After various runs 

  they heard a call on the radio from a B-25. Imagine a 'stick' of 

pumpkins leaving the bomb bay...

possums(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

At 02:58 PM 3/22/2007, you wrote:

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At 12:08 AM 3/22/2007, R. Hankins wrote:

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>Now, if I could just get my hands on a watermellon.......

My home airport just closed (the usual, housing development  ). 

Fortunately he wasn't as crazy as he talked...

-Dana

Oh!...... come on, you guys can't tell me that at least some of you 

haven't done watermelon drops before.

I don't mean on houses near the airport - but at your flyins at least??

rap(at)isp.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: Firestar bowling

Bowling balls are tough we shot one with a old 308 military round and only

put a 1"chip in it.

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planecrazzzy
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: Re: Firestar bowling

10 mph faster per sec.....12 sec ....Terminal velocity - 120 mph



 If yer gonna jump off a building....you don't need to go higher than

the 12 floor....



Gotta Fly...

Mike & "Jaz" in MN



 	  JetPilot wrote: 	
		    How high would I need to drop to get it to terminal velocity ?  



Mike

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