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bertrv6(at)highstream.net
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 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: Tires.. |
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Hello:
I will have to buy the first set of tires for my RV6a.
Question is, what is the best deal out there...brand name etc..
I have heard more than once, from pilots, that they have found, that buying
re-treads, have given them better service than new ones...
Your experience appreciated,
Bert
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dan(at)rvproject.com
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: Tires.. |
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| Quote: | I have heard more than once, from pilots, that they have found, that
buying
re-treads, have given them better service than new ones...
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FWIW, I used only McCreary AirHawks for 1000 hours. They wore quickly but
were very LIGHT and CHEAP. Rotating them at ~150 hours I was getting
250-300 hours on a set.
At my last tire replacement, I switched to a set of Wilkerson retreads. I
got Goodyear Flight Custom II retreads for basically the same price as new
AirHawks. First the BAD news...they were notably heavier than the AirHawks,
and they were slightly larger in diameter.
Now the GOOD news. I'm going to get easily another 50% more landings on
these retreads than I did on the AirHawks. 200 hours and I still haven't
had to rotate 'em yet. May not even bother.
A worthwhile experiment imho, and for somebody who wants maximum bang for
the buck, the retreads seem to be a great value. But I'll be honest...I
don't mind rotating the tires and replacing them more often. I *enjoy*
working on my plane, and it doesn't take long to swap/rotate tires. When it
comes time to replace tires again I'm going back to the McCreary AirHawks.
I'd rather have the lightweight setup, even if that means I have to devote
two more afternoons to maintenance every year (no biggie!).
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1246 hours)
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lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: Tires.. |
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I think DanC has the best deal going on his site.
Darrell
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bertrv6(at)highstream.net
Hello:
I will have to buy the first set of tires for my
RV6a.
Question is, what is the best deal out there...brand
name etc..
I have heard more than once, from pilots, that they
have found, that buying
re-treads, have given them better service than new
ones...
Your experience appreciated,
Bert
rv6a
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jeffpoint
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: Tires.. |
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Dan,
Did you by chance measure the weight difference? I'm about to put on my
3rd set of Airhawks, mostly due to inertia, but the longer life has my
intrigued.
Jeff Point
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dan(at)rvproject.com
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:30 am Post subject: Tires.. |
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| Quote: | Did you by chance measure the weight difference? I'm about to put on my
3rd set of Airhawks, mostly due to inertia, but the longer life has my
intrigued.
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Unfortunately, no. But with my highly accurate calibrated neuro-sensitive
Hand 2000 scales I could definitely feel a difference of (what felt to me
like) a couple of pounds per set.
I think I have some old AirHawk cores lying around. When the Wilkerson
retreat Flight Custom IIs come off, I'll try to remember to compare those.
)_( Dan
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romott(at)adelphia.net
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: Tires.. |
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Aviation Consumer ran extensive tests on tire brands as well as retreads.
See http://www.desser.com/epdf/ACJuneFinal04-dtr.pdf
We used the Wilkerson Retreads on our 172 - twice - got good results! As
better wear than the expensive Michelins we were running before.
Ron Brown
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dan(at)rvproject.com
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: Tires.. |
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I had read that article in the past but I went back and re-read it. First
of all, there are at least TWO glaring errors that I spotted. But more
importantly imho, the article approaches the notion of "value" to include
the cost of labor for tire replacement. They under-value cheaper tires (at
least from our perspective) because they imply that the aircraft owner will
incur more "labor charges" as a result of having to change tires more
frequently.
So how does this apply to OBAM (owner built & maintained) aircraft owners,
who theoretically "pay" nothing but an afternoon of our time when replacing
tires? And how does it apply to us, RV builders who try to shave pounds
wherever we can (to compensate for our often large guts)? Our value system
is different imho.
I think if somebody rewrote this article in the context of homebuilts, the
conclusion & recommendations might be different.
I still contend that on a combined basis of weight, diameter, cost per
landing, and landings per rotation/replacment, the McCreary AirHawk takes
the cake for the average RV owner. Your mileage and priorities may vary!
)_( Dan
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