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keithhickling(at)clear.ne
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: brake hose routing XS mono

Evening all,

 Can someone please help me with the routing of the  brake hose? The manual says to rout it from the brake caliper up the swing arm,  forward of the LG08 retraction arms and over the top of the large horizontal  tube of the LG mounting frame that the LG09 shaft goes through, up to the top of  the tunnel and back to the master cylinder.

  

 But my hose is 15 - 20 cm too short for that  routing. It is 121 cm long from the screw fittings, and this is not long enough  even to go directly from the master cylinder directly forward to the large tube  on the LG mounting frame and directly back to the slave cylinder. Roger Bull  tells me that 121 cm is the standard length. So have I misunderstood the manual?  Has anyone else had this problem? Can someone with it accessible please measure  the length of their hose for me?

  

 Thanks,

  

 Keith Hickling,

 New Zealand,

 Kit 613

  

  

  

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NevEyre(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: brake hose routing XS mono

Hi Keith,

 There was a batch of brake lines sent out by Europa [ the '' old '' Europa  ] that were too short, guess you must have one of those ?

 Get EO4 to supply you with a length to suit, tell them it is the BLACK line  you need. You don't need the fittings [ cut them off the old one ] as the  ends get flared the first time you fit the pipe.

  

 Cheers,

 Nev. 

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william(at)wrmills.plus.c
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: brake hose routing XS mono

Keith et al,

 I know of at least two Europa Monos that lost all  braking owing to a leak in the brake pipe, because the brake pipes were  retained by plastic cable ties.  Apparently the cable ties eventually wear  through the nylon and release all the brake pressure when it is  needed!  I replaced mine before it happened, but this time I routed the  pipe to cut the corner, i.e. the bend is inside the swinging arm pivot  point.  This way I can keep a check on the whole length of pipe and I also  use rubber lined "P" clips to retain it in position and a sleeve of split  silicone tube to protect it where it might rub on the walls of the U/C  tunnel.  If you consider routing yours this way, I would expect your  pipe is long enough.

 Regards,

 William

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keithhickling(at)clear.ne
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: brake hose routing XS mono

Thanks William. Did you route yours along the wall  of the tunnel going forward from the master cylinder? I have considered this  routing - forward and down from the master cylinder, crossing the rudder cable  just behind the tufnol rubbing block and against the tunnel wall (my rudder  cables are in nylaflow tubing anyway). Then a gentle curve passing a little  behind the swing arm bearings, then back down the swing arm. As you say, my  cable is just long enough for this route. And I'll avoid cable  ties!

  

 No problems with your redo?

  

 Regards,

 Keith.

  

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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: brake hose routing XS mono

Yes, that is the exact route.  A nice gentle  curve against the tunnel wall from the master cylinder forwards and  down to the top of the swinging arm passing inside the rudder cables.  Most  Monos have rotated the slave cylinder rear-wards, so that it is horizontal when  the U/C is retracted; inline with the forks.  It is less vulnerable when on  the ground and is out of the slipstream when retracted.  No problems with  the redo.

 Regards,

 William

  

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