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Burning 100LL in the 912

 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Burning 100LL in the 912 Reply with quote

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"John Hauck" wrote : << My less than an hour old 912ULS is full of its
first taste of Valvoline Durablend 20W50. John W and I both use this
oil in our
912ULS engines. Takes care of the lead problem associated with 100LL.
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John, and other 912 Drivers -

I've seen this advice before: The use of semi-synthetic oil if you burn
lots of 100LL in your 912. (Helps suspend the lead from the gas.)

Presently, I'm using Mobil-1 full synthetic in my 912ul, because all my
flying up to now has been local, and 87 (or better) octane has always
been available. (I bring my gas to the airport in 5-gal fuel cans.)

So here's a question for you seasoned 912 operators:

With the upcoming Monument Valley trip, I will be refueling at airports
that only sell 100LL. Over the course of this trip, I will likely put
8-10 hours on my plane burning 100LL. Not enough to make it worth doing
an oil change with semi-synthetic.

But ... would it be worthwhile to run those tankfulls of 100LL with TCP
fuel additive, or Marvel Mystery Oil to prevent buildup of excessive
carbon? Or is ten hours not enough to worry about?

Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Burning 100LL in the 912 Reply with quote

Dennis,

Dont think carbon will be an issue. If you run a 912 on a steady diet of 100LL the problem is the build up of lead in the sprag clutch in the gear box that the starter engages.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Burning 100LL in the 912 Reply with quote

| I've seen this advice before: The use of semi-synthetic oil if you
burn
| lots of 100LL in your 912. (Helps suspend the lead from the gas.)
|
| Dennis Kirby
Dennis K:

Full synthetic will not suspend lead. Organic and semi-synthetic
will.

A couple tanks of 100LL probably will not warrant a switch to
semi-synthetic.

There is a percentage published by Rotax on when to change over. I
can not remember it right now. Perhaps Paul Petty can. It was given
to us during the 912 School.

Carbon is not a problem, unless you baby the 912. If you cruise at
5,000 or more, you will blow the carbon out. Lead is the problem.
Marvel Mystery Oil might help keep the plugs clean. I fouled a couple
plugs with 100LL during a 232 hour flight. When I landed, I pulled
them out, took my knife and scraped the lead out of the plug, put them
back in and flew on.

john h
mkIII


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