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jerryhey(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: Work table

I just ordered the 701 plans this morning.  Before they get here I  

have time to build the table.  Can anyone give me recommendations as  

to length and width of the table top.  Thanks,  Jerry

roger(at)nwtradingpost.co
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: Work table

Jerry



I am building a 701 and I find 12 foot by 4 foot works well



Roger



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Location: Indianapolis, IN

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Work table

Jerry,



An excellent set of plans for a 4 by 12 table are at http://www.ch601.org/tools.htm

Scroll a bit down the page and look for "table plans". I built this table for my 601XL project.

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brothapig(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Work table

Jerry, I built mine ~13ft x 4ft, and that is plenty big.  I used 2x6's for the top frame, but if I had to do it again, I would use engineered I-beams.  The reason is they are straight.  I thought the 2x6's I used were straight, but when you start measuring your table top, you see all of the variations in the board.  I used 3/4" BC plywood for the top, but I would use MDF instead.  MDF is extremely flat, and hard.

I went though a lot of extra shimming on my table to get it flat, and it still is not perfectly flat.  If you want to see a picture of my table you can go to users.tznet.com/~brothapig

I'll send you more pictures off list if you would like them.  Happy building.



Ryan





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 I just ordered the 701 plans this morning.  Before they get here I  

 have time to build the table.  Can anyone give me recommendations as  

 to length and width of the table top.  Thanks,  Jerry

ernieth(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: Work table

Hi,



I used the engineered I-beams. The ones I used had 1x3 top and bottom. I would use the 2x4 version if I had to do it over again. They were not perfectly flat, but straight. My Neighbor told me that the ones he has used in the past were better quality. I think the version with 2x4 top and bottom would have been the better quality. 



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 On 4/16/07, Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)>

Jerry, I built mine ~13ft x 4ft, and that is plenty big.  I used 2x6's for the top frame, but if I had to do it again, I would use engineered I-beams.  The reason is they are straight.  I thought the 2x6's I used were straight, but when you start measuring your table top, you see all of the variations in the board.  I used 3/4" BC plywood for the top, but I would use MDF instead.  MDF is extremely flat, and hard. 

I went though a lot of extra shimming on my table to get it flat, and it still is not perfectly flat.  If you want to see a picture of my table you can go to users.tznet.com/~brothapig 

I'll send you more pictures off list if you would like them.  Happy building.



Ryan





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 Subject: Work table

 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:52:39 -0400



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 I just ordered the 701 plans this morning.  Before they get here I

 have time to build the table.  Can anyone give me recommendations as

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JERICKSON03E(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: Work table

In a message dated 4/16/2007 9:54:16 AM Central Daylight Time, jerryhey(at)earthlink.net writes:

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I just ordered the 701 plans this morning.  Before they get here I  

have time to build the table.  Can anyone give me recommendations as  

to length and width of the table top.  Thanks,  Jerry 	


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 Jerry, 

 For a FLAT and moveable work table I used the two sections of a new, Home Depot, extension ladder. 

 Sixteen foot ladder, remove the fittings from the ends, space out plywood top surface down on the floor & lay  out ladder sections with about 3 in clearance all around to clamp to during construction. 

  

 Drill clearance holes through the rails for # ten sheet metal screws, about 3/4 in long, pan head PHILIPS head. Screw through ladder rails at about ten in spacing or so. Use good quality plywood that is flat to start with, Home Depot again.

  

 Layout is with both ladder sections laying next to ea. other. Screws through each of the four rails. Pilot holes only into the plywood.

  

 Then screw two boards across the four ladder rails, cross wise to form kind of a box beam. Place them where you think the legs should be ~~~~~. Box beam makes it strong & keeps it flat too.

  

 Use whatever legs you like, I used two small folding leg tables, sawhorses are used by others. That allows the height of the work table to be lowered later with shorter legs, or other supports. Just clamp it as needed.

  

 The ladder I used was 16 foot extension, and resulted in a 10 1/2 foot long by 4 foot wide work table. It fits in my work shop, just right for my 701 construction. Use the length you need for your length table. Measure the ladder extensions before you buy it, to satisfy yourself they are the same width, yes they are made to slide into each other, not a factor here though.

  

 The result is a FLAT & light weight work table, that goes together quickly. Cost is a wash, and the aluminum ladder rails are straight to start with and have stayed straight. I studied wood beam work tables & the tables at ZAC. Most were heavy and less than flat when I saw them.

  

 Be aware that the FLAT plywood table top is the tooling here.  It gets screws, holes, slots, and whatever is needed to serve to make the aircraft parts along the way. It is the way the designer helps us build correctly, no twist that is. Flat is Flat. Level is another condition, useful now and then, as in joining the fuselage sections. 

  

 Happy Building

  

 Jerry Erickson, EAA TC & 701 builder.



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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: Work table

Here is another place where a couple of images would really be nice. Please post them if available. Thank you.



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JERICKSON03E(at)aol.com wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		   ...Jerry, 

 For a FLAT and moveable work table I used the two sections of a new, Home Depot, extension ladder. 

 Sixteen foot ladder, remove the fittings from the ends, space out plywood top surface down on the floor & lay  out ladder sections with about 3 in clearance all around to clamp to during construction.....

	


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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: Work table

Greetings,

  

     Some engineered lumber beams use LVL (looks like thick  plywood) for the flanges.  I think they might be straighter than the ones  with regular lumber for the flanges. 

  

 Raymond Julian

 Kettle  River, MN

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jerryhey(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Work table

 I like this surprising table construction.  Simple, inexpensive and accurate.  I will be checking the ladders at Home Depot next time I am in town.  Thanks,  Jerry



On Apr 16, 2007, at 8:12 PM, JERICKSON03E(at)aol.com (JERICKSON03E(at)aol.com) wrote:

[quote]  In a message dated 4/16/2007 9:54:16 AM Central Daylight Time, jerryhey(at)earthlink.net (jerryhey(at)earthlink.net) writes:

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I just ordered the 701 plans this morning.  Before they get here I  

have time to build the table.  Can anyone give me recommendations as  

to length and width of the table top.  Thanks,  Jerry 	


 ------

  

 Jerry, 

 For a FLAT and moveable work table I used the two sections of a new, Home Depot, extension ladder. 

 Sixteen foot ladder, remove the fittings from the ends, space out plywood top surface down on the floor & lay  out ladder sections with about 3 in clearance all around to clamp to during construction. 

  

 Drill clearance holes through the rails for # ten sheet metal screws, about 3/4 in long, pan head PHILIPS head. Screw through ladder rails at about ten in spacing or so. Use good quality plywood that is flat to start with, Home Depot again.

  

 Layout is with both ladder sections laying next to ea. other. Screws through each of the four rails. Pilot holes only into the plywood.

  

 Then screw two boards across the four ladder rails, cross wise to form kind of a box beam. Place them where you think the legs should be ~~~~~. Box beam makes it strong & keeps it flat too.

  

 Use whatever legs you like, I used two small folding leg tables, sawhorses are used by others. That allows the height of the work table to be lowered later with shorter legs, or other supports. Just clamp it as needed.

  

 The ladder I used was 16 foot extension, and resulted in a 10 1/2 foot long by 4 foot wide work table. It fits in my work shop, just right for my 701 construction. Use the length you need for your length table. Measure the ladder extensions before you buy it, to satisfy yourself they are the same width, yes they are made to slide into each other, not a factor here though.

  

 The result is a FLAT & light weight work table, that goes together quickly. Cost is a wash, and the aluminum ladder rails are straight to start with and have stayed straight. I studied wood beam work tables & the tables at ZAC. Most were heavy and less than flat when I saw them.

  

 Be aware that the FLAT plywood table top is the tooling here.  It gets screws, holes, slots, and whatever is needed to serve to make the aircraft parts along the way. It is the way the designer helps us build correctly, no twist that is. Flat is Flat. Level is another condition, useful now and then, as in joining the fuselage sections. 

  

 Happy Building

  

 Jerry Erickson, EAA TC & 701 builder.



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Kevin Bonds

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Location: Nashville, Tn

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: Work table

Take a look at my worktable construction page here

http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds/Worktable.htm

Kevin Bonds



Nashville TN



601XL Plans building.



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Kevin Bonds

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Location: Nashville, Tn

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: Work table

Engineered I-beams aren't perfectly straight either. My table is

unbelievably flat. No shimming required.

http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds/Worktable.htm

Kevin Bonds



Nashville TN



601XL Plans building.



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Ron Lendon

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Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Work table

I made the box beams like you did Kevin only I was able to run them all over a planner at work.  You see me jumping on it and doing engines tear downs and it is still flat, just has a lot of holes and grooves in it now.

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