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jack(at)comconn.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

I hadn't flown my fox in a bit, and on visiting the hangar,

noted a bit of oil under the plane.  Something new?



It appears as though the 2 cycle oil is making it through the

rear carb, soaking the air filter, and dripping on through.



This is a gray head, ~160 hours. No sign of oil in the coolant,

and the oil pump bottle is right on the mark. It's not a lot of oil, 

maybe a 1/2 oz. or so, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.



It's been a month since I flew her, and that's the longest it's

ever been.. has anyone seen this before? 



Thanks,



-Jack

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thesupe(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

A friend of mine has a 582 on a powered parachute that did the same thing.  

It was a rotary valve shaft seal leaking.  Jim

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		  From: Jack L Bell <jack(at)comconn.com>

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Subject: 582 Oil leak?

Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:24:34 -0500 (CDT)

I hadn't flown my fox in a bit, and on visiting the hangar,

noted a bit of oil under the plane.  Something new?

It appears as though the 2 cycle oil is making it through the

rear carb, soaking the air filter, and dripping on through.

This is a gray head, ~160 hours. No sign of oil in the coolant,

and the oil pump bottle is right on the mark. It's not a lot of oil,

maybe a 1/2 oz. or so, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

It's been a month since I flew her, and that's the longest it's

ever been.. has anyone seen this before?

Thanks,

-Jack

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Guy Buchanan

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

At 12:24 PM 4/22/2007, you wrote:

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		  It's been a month since I flew her, and that's the longest it's

ever been.. has anyone seen this before?


	


I have some oil leaking from the carb side as well. I'm fairly 

certain it's the injection oil, as the rotary oil looks good. I'm 

told there's a check valve in the oil pump that can get particulates 

in it and thereafter pass oil under gravity feed. I'm trying to confirm.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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davef(at)cfisher.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

Jim ,



I run Bombardier Mineral oil in  injection and it is amber coloured.

In RV bottle I use Castrol super  2 stroke which is blue so I can see the 

level easier.

Both of these oils are API-TC rated which is what is reco'd for 582s.  Don't 

be using outboard motor oil.



Maybe try changing one oil so you can see which one it is

Dave

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Fox5flyer
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

As I recall, Pennzoil Outboard Premium Air-cooled is the recommended oil for

the Rotax 582.

Deke



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 I run Bombardier Mineral oil in  injection and it is amber coloured.

 In RV bottle I use Castrol super  2 stroke which is blue so I can see the

 level easier.

 Both of these oils are API-TC rated which is what is reco'd for 582s.

Don't
	


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		   be using outboard motor oil.



 Maybe try changing one oil so you can see which one it is

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xfire

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: Re: 582 Oil leak?

[quote="Fox5flyer"]As I recall, Pennzoil Outboard Premium Air-cooled is the recommended oil for

the Rotax 582.

Deke

Aircooled outboard ??  Been alot of years since I have seen one.  I think the outboard and the aircooled are two different oils.

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davef(at)cfisher.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

Deke,



Pennzoil for Aircooled yes with a API-TC rating.

Outboard oil will have a TW3 or TC W3 rating and it API-TC is not listed 

then it is not the same.



Totally different operating conditions -- ie  outboards run a contanst 

supply of  80F or cooler water. just to name one .



582s in Aircraft need a better oil



Dave

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Float Flyr

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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

Dave:



I thought it was recommended to use the same oil in the RV as in the

injector pump.  You are saying it really doesn't matter that much as long as

both oils are API-TC rated.



Noel



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dafox(at)ckt.net
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: 582 Oil leak?

Hello Jack,

  

         When I  had my 582 in my kitfox before my 912 UL,  the very same 

 thing happen'd.  Oil leak coming fom  somewhere, traced it to the Air filter,

 and it was saturated, Rotory valve tank still  full, not coming from there, and

 i remembered that when installing a new air filter,  you don't have to pre-oil

 as it will get lubricated from the  Carburators.  I suspose it accumalates after

 each shut down from unburned oil and gas  mixture.  It happernd twice in

 four years to me.  I wouldn't worry about  it.

  

                                                                      David

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