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rjquillin(at)gmail.com
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 Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: Cigarette Lighter Alternatives -> EmPower ARINC 628, Power |
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At 08:17 4/27/2007, you wrote:
| Quote: | Anyway - I thought I'd toss this bit of research out there. I'm
going to be adding a few
ARINC 628 Part Two sockets to my plane - and possibly to my
cars. If it avoids a single
"bump induced" bout of "The DVD went off!!!" it will be well worth it. 
Greg
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We just installed 4 of the 628 jacks in our Bellanca.
The ones in the rear seats use some of the additional small gauge
contacts for audio to the entertainment inputs of the audio
panel. Same thing up front, but additionally RS-232 I/O is included.
Work great!
Ron Q.
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fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: Cigarette Lighter Alternatives -> EmPower ARINC 628, Power |
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So to use these "non-standard" jacks, you have to cut the end off all your
DVD, Ipod etc cords and re-terminate with the appropriate connector in order
to use it in the airplane (in which case you won't be able to use it
elsewhere) OR do you make up short little adapter cables in which case you
still have the "poor" type of connector in the circuit and worse you have
MORE connections. Can someone tell me what I'm missing here?
Bevan
RV7A wiring
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Eric M. Jones
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Cigarette Lighter Alternatives -> EmPower ARINC 628 |
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I suppose if you wanted a standard, the "cigar lighter" jacks are as standard as it gets. Adapters to other connectors from cigar lighters are also readily available. Better quality lighter connectors are available from marine supply houses. Marinco makes them (horrible website, but lots of distributors).
USB is often used to power small devices. It has the advantage of inherent current control and talks to a computer if required. BUt it is still simple for the homebuilder.
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gregcampbellusa(at)gmail.
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: Cigarette Lighter Alternatives -> EmPower ARINC 628, Power |
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What you’re missing is the opportunity to get RELIABLE and COMPACT
power connections between the vehicles and devices you use 90% of the time.
I’m willing to make ARINC 628 tipped cords if it means 99.9% reliability 90% of the time!
For the other 10% of the time (like when I’m in a rental car with ONLY cigarette lighters),
then I have the option of using a reliable ARINC to Cigarette Plug adapter.
The ARINC plug to ARINC socket is essentially “transparent”, so I’m no worse
off than the status quo – which is limited by the quality of the cigarette plug & socket.
But now I only have to put up with the “status quo” for 10% of my missions!
My Kensington power supplies and HP power supplies came with nice adapters
that are no bigger than a standard cigarette lighter plug.
See page 8 of http://files.acco.com/KENSINGTON/K33197/K33197-24456.pdf
You have to examine & use these to appreciate how good they are.
The ARINC plug to socket connection doesn’t get hot – even at 11 Amps.
The cigarette plug is one of the better quality cigarette plugs I’ve used as well.
Since I already have seven of these little adapters - I’m not out anything
to clip the ends off my son’s DVD player and my Garmin GPS cable and replace
them with ARINC 628 plugs. Once I do – I’ll have reliable connections 90% of the time,
and “no worse” than the status quo the remaining 10% of the time
(by using the adapters in rental cars.)
You should probably examine one of these connectors before you rant about them.
These are standardized gold plated pins – comparable to Mil-Spec connectors. It’s an
“open standard” so they are all compatible. Compare that to the wide variety and
different qualities of cigarette lighter plugs. The cigarette plugs on my $2,400 Garmin GPS
are a joke by comparison!
I’m not saying you should “replace” the cigarette lighter sockets in your plane or car
with these, but it certainly couldn’t hurt to add some ARINC 628 sockets. The smart design
of them makes them far superior to cigarette sockets and plugs! The connections are small,
and you can place a neat little row of them in a third the space of comparable cigarette outlets.
I had previously written a question to this list seeking the part number for the EmPower socket.
I never received an answer on the list, but I eventually found the answer myself.
This post was just a followup so others could benefit by knowing that the part is an
ARINC 628 “Part 2” power socket. Once I found the specs for that part,
then it only made sense to pass along that the current limitations of 8 to 10 Amps.
The “PowerLet” outlets are for higher amperage devices. Specifically it’s for the
electrically heated socks, vests, gloves, etc.. that my friends wear in their open
cockpit plane. Since most of those garments come from motorcycle shops,
it’s a good bet that they will either come with, or be offered with, the “BMW style”
plugs. If you’ve got a plane that could benefit from electrically heated socks,
blankets, gloves, etc.. then you might want to know where to get PowerLet (aka BMW style)
power outlets. These are ideal for applications over 10 Amps – or for heated clothing in general.
I don’t think too many of us will be putting them in our cars though
Because they make these for the motorcycle crowd – the outlets are usually
stylish and weatherproof. They are also designed to be operated with one hand.
Anyway – those were the choices that I found. YMMV.
If you’re happy with the cigarette lighter plugs – then keep on plugging!
If you want a more reliable and compact solution, try some ARINC 628 connectors.
I’ll be in the garage soldering on the ARINC 628 connectors
Greg
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