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lacloudchaser(at)yahoo.co
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 Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: On behalf of Dragon Flight, thanks for you help this morning |
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Folks,
The discussion has been lively on the issue of formation ops at non towered fields concerning the recent near miss. Some of our pilots involved are writing up a "There I was..." article for the magazine, with some recommendations taken in part from all the responses in your posts here.
Although I may not see every post on the yak list, I wanted to support something Cliff wrote in his post below:
The next time you hear good callouts from a spam can
driver, go up to him when he's tying down and compliment him on his
procedure. He'll appreciate it, you'll feel good and you will have
created a very attentive joint user of the airspace from that point on.
Cliff Umscheid, YAK 50
Our use of disciplined radio procedures, brevity in formation communications, pre-coodination of formation operations with local agencys when needed (tower controllers) and the use of the occassional "thank you" produces a culture in RedStar that serves you, the warbid owner, well. As we go through our paces marshalling the flight into or out of the airport, I try to end it with a thank you to the controllers - as you might imagine, this professional courtesy often produces the patience and extra effort (traffic coordination for example) that we all need/desire from these folks...
Please Note: Formation qualified or not, even if your Yak, CJ or L-29/39 is down for MX or in the paint shop (bring the Cessna), If you live in OK, KS, LA or TX, or anywhere in the SouthCentral region, the RPA is sponsoring a Fly-In/meet and greet and "future central event" planning session for May 10-13th at a field "near Dallas" ( inquotations as the Texans are scrubbing a few local airports in te area). I've recieved several requests for something in Texas, a region with ample membership; if you would like to see an annual event, please attempt to fly out for this local meet and greet, even if its just for one day. If you are new to formation ops and interestd in getting started, this is a great opportunity to see where the program is heading (should be plenty of empty seats for an observation flight if desired)
We will:
- Have a discussion group/plans session on dates and locations for a proposed annual event
- Conduct a formation ground school and overview of the new formation manual tools
- Conduct form flight training, rec rides and evals as required
- Have fun, meet who's who in this area...
Date, Location and Registration:
The event is listed on the Fly-In page at www.flyredstar.org as the SC/texas fly-in, please register online, its free, and insures we have an accurate head count and contact info...
Fly-ins are the best fun you can have as a warbid owner, if you live in this area, drop by and be counted in support of this annual event concept...
Drew
Drew A. Blahnick
RPA President
www.flyredstar.org
V.954.636.7560
F.305.675.3940
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david(at)mcgirt.net
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: On behalf of Dragon Flight, thanks for you help this morning |
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One last personal note -
we learned that most General aviation pilots do not know what a "RedStar Flight of 9" is.. a humorus episode followed in Cedar Key before Sun-n-Fun. ( also, allow for the southern drawl of the words.. mind you..)
While coordinating with a Cessna inbound the Cedar Key, I was letting him know where the flight of 9 was, and what we would be doing and where.. and working with him as we all heading to the Cedar Key International Airport hair care and tire center..
Anyway, he figured out late what a "flight of 9" was , when he came on the radio when he finally had visual.. " Roger, holy crap, you have a lots of planes there Flight-9"
Anyway, just good lessons across the board in the overall discussion. Our terms are not always well known…
David "Talon - Flight of 9" McGirt
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:47 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: On behalf of Dragon Flight, thanks for you help this morning
Folks,
The discussion has been lively on the issue of formation ops at non towered fields concerning the recent near miss. Some of our pilots involved are writing up a "There I was..." article for the magazine, with some recommendations taken in part from all the responses in your posts here.
Although I may not see every post on the yak list, I wanted to support something Cliff wrote in his post below:
The next time you hear good callouts from a spam can
driver, go up to him when he's tying down and compliment him on his
procedure. He'll appreciate it, you'll feel good and you will have
created a very attentive joint user of the airspace from that point on.
Cliff Umscheid, YAK 50
Our use of disciplined radio procedures, brevity in formation communications, pre-coodination of formation operations with local agencys when needed (tower controllers) and the use of the occassional "thank you" produces a culture in RedStar that serves you, the warbid owner, well. As we go through our paces marshalling the flight into or out of the airport, I try to end it with a thank you to the controllers - as you might imagine, this professional courtesy often produces the patience and extra effort (traffic coordination for example) that we all need/desire from these folks...
Please Note: Formation qualified or not, even if your Yak, CJ or L-29/39 is down for MX or in the paint shop (bring the Cessna), If you live in OK, KS, LA or TX, or anywhere in the SouthCentral region, the RPA is sponsoring a Fly-In/meet and greet and "future central event" planning session for May 10-13th at a field "near Dallas" ( inquotations as the Texans are scrubbing a few local airports in te area). I've recieved several requests for something in Texas, a region with ample membership; if you would like to see an annual event, please attempt to fly out for this local meet and greet, even if its just for one day. If you are new to formation ops and interestd in getting started, this is a great opportunity to see where the program is heading (should be plenty of empty seats for an observation flight if desired)
We will:
- Have a discussion group/plans session on dates and locations for a proposed annual event
- Conduct a formation ground school and overview of the new formation manual tools
- Conduct form flight training, rec rides and evals as required
- Have fun, meet who's who in this area...
Date, Location and Registration:
The event is listed on the Fly-In page at www.flyredstar.org as the SC/texas fly-in, please register online, its free, and insures we have an accurate head count and contact info...
Fly-ins are the best fun you can have as a warbid owner, if you live in this area, drop by and be counted in support of this annual event concept...
Drew
Drew A. Blahnick
RPA President
www.flyredstar.org
V.954.636.7560
F.305.675.3940
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check out [url=http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http:/autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-]new cars at Yahoo! Autos.[/url] | Quote: | | http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List |
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