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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:33 am    Post subject: Fuel system contamination Reply with quote

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I have not had my ZodiacXL for very long and was unaware of the center fuel drain until a friend pointed it out to me. When I opened the valve nothing but black materiel came out eventually turning green then finally blue. I have no idea what this materiel was but I suspect auto fuel. I did not build this aircraft but got it from a man in Ringwood, Oklahoma and I suspect he used auto fuel to fly the 40 hours off. Have any of you Zodiac601XL builders had an experence like this and what action did you take.

Tracy Stone   DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Harker Heights, Tx
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Fuel system contamination Reply with quote

It nearly sounds like the guy tried to use the same can for his plane
and a 2-cycle lawn mower. Aside from that, perhaps he put
an additive in thinking it would mix and stabilize his fuel over
winter. If he used a bad float, it may have gone south too. I'd at the
least
get a flashlight and a mirror in the tank after emptying it and have a
good look inside.

Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
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robert stone wrote:
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Members,
I have not had my ZodiacXL for very long and was unaware of the
center fuel drain until a friend pointed it out to me. When I opened
the valve nothing but black materiel came out eventually turning green
then finally blue. I have no idea what this materiel was but I
suspect auto fuel. I did not build this aircraft but got it from a
man in Ringwood, Oklahoma and I suspect he used auto fuel to fly the
40 hours off. Have any of you Zodiac601XL builders had an experence
like this and what action did you take.

Tracy Stone DO NOT ARCHIVE
Zodiac601XL
Harker Heights, Tx
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: Fuel system contamination Reply with quote

Hi Tracy,

Many kit built XLs use black rubber hose for fuel line. I have heard many reports that this tends to turn the fuel funny colors until the hose is completely cleaned out.

This is relatively common. I wouldn't scrap the plane yet for this reason.

Happy landings,

Paul
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At 06:26 AM 5/13/2007, you wrote:
[quote]Members,
I have not had my ZodiacXL for very long and was unaware of the center fuel drain until a friend pointed it out to me. When I opened the valve nothing but black materiel came out eventually turning green then finally blue. I have no idea what this materiel was but I suspect auto fuel. I did not build this aircraft but got it from a man in Ringwood, Oklahoma and I suspect he used auto fuel to fly the 40 hours off. Have any of you Zodiac601XL builders had an experence like this and what action did you take.

Tracy Stone DO NOT ARCHIVE
Zodiac601XL
Harker Heights, Tx

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel system contamination Reply with quote

I built a 701 and had the same problem with fuel color and tiny bits of material coming through. I washed the tanks very well with soap and water, and rinsed several times before installing them. I blew the fuel lines out with high pressure air before installation. After installation I ran at least five gallons of gas through each tank several times all the way to the carbs. untill the debris was (nearly) gone, I was sure everything was as clean as one could get the fuel components yet the fuel continued to come through colored and very small various colored particles after sitting a while. I am convinced it was all coming from the black rubber fuel lines. After seventy five hours, all seems clear. All the fuel I add is filtered while being poured into the tanks. Nothing ever comes out of my fuel draines (four) any more.


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    PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Fuel system contamination Reply with quote

    Paul,
    No kit producer would include rubber hoses in his fuel system because and petroleum products of any kind will melt rubber. They use a hose in the flex line areas called neoprene.

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    PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel system contamination Reply with quote

    I agree, it sounds like 2-cycle oil, actually, it almost sounds like regualr motor oil used as 2-cycle oil, (you can do that but it smokes like hell). My boat has had the same black fuel lines for 11 years (yes, I shoud replace them), even so, I've never seen anything like that in my fuel/water seperator even after mixing stabilizer in the tanks and letting it sit over the winter.

    larry(at)macsmachine.com wrote:
    It nearly sounds like the guy tried to use the same can for his plane
    and a 2-cycle lawn mower. Aside from that, perhaps he put
    an additive in thinking it would mix and stabilize his fuel over
    winter. If he used a bad float, it may have gone south too. I'd at the
    least
    get a flashlight and a mirror in the tank after emptying it and have a
    good look inside.

    Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
    do not archive

    robert stone wrote:
    Quote:
    Members,
    I have not had my ZodiacXL for very long and was unaware of the
    center fuel drain until a friend pointed it out to me. When I opened
    the valve nothing but black materiel came out eventually turning green
    then finally blue. I have no idea what this materiel was but I
    suspect auto fuel. I did not build this aircraft but got it from a
    man in Ringwood, Oklahoma and I suspect he used auto fuel to fly the
    40 hours off. Have any of you Zodiac601XL builders had an experence
    like this and what action did you take.

    Tracy Stone DO NOT ARCHIVE
    Zodiac601XL
    Harker Heights, Tx
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