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Flyersteve
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 Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: Maximum Takeoff Weight is not Gross weight..... period. |
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"Maximum Takeoff Weight" as it applies to sport pilots is not the same as "Gross weight" as many of you believe and as others attempt to read into the FAR 1.1 definition.
All I am going to say here on this site is if you really want to learn and understand this issue, you must read the "bible" on light-sport/sportpilot rules...., found at the following link.
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/sport_rule.pdf
If you wish to learn more , in an open and casual atmosphere, vist this site..., http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/ , look aroud, and feel free to post your comments and\or questions.
Or you may keep reading the same old b.s. information on the issue here.
Steve 84KF http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/
..and flying a Series 5/912UL under sportpilot privilages.
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jose_m_toro(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: Maximum Takeoff Weight is not Gross weight..... period. |
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Steve:
Your mean tone on your e-mail motivated me to do some research. After verifying the "bible" (the AOPA link), I found that term gross weight is not specified anywhere in the sport pilot final rule. The rule is specified in terms of MTOW (max takeoff weight).
The airplanes, however, are certified with a gross weight. I verified the EAA site, and found that all the airplanes that meet the definition of light-sport aircrafts (S-LSA,E-LSA,E-51% and standard category) have been certified with a gross weight equal to or less than 1320 pounds.
It is my undestanding based on this information that, from the airplane point of view, the gross weight and the MTOW is the same. If your Model V was certified with a gross weight that does not exceed 1320 pounds, you can legally fly it under the sport pilot privileges. Otherwise, you can't legally fly it under sport pilot privileges. As simple as that!!! All this information applies exclusively to land aircrafts (numbers are different for seaplanes).
If somebody (specially a CFI or DPE) understands that this information is wrong, please specify the section of the regulation that clarifies it.
Respectfully,
José Toro
ex KFII-582
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kirkhull(at)kc.rr.com
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: Maximum Takeoff Weight is not Gross weight..... period. |
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Your statements are correct. The term Max takeoff weight originally came
from large transport aircraft that could takeoff heaver then they could land
because they would burn off thousands of bounds of fuel on a long trip.
| Quote: | From my discussions with the FAA folks during the creation of the new rule,
I think that this term was used to prevent any confusion as to takeoff
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,landing, gross weight.
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