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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: Start your engine

There comes a time with every builder when he or  she hears someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine"  :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of  the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've  got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>} 

  

 I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off  line each time I tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge  on the engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a know problem  that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the engine, the unit shuts  down. But as soon as the engine starts it comes back on line. I have to send the  unit in for an update to it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy.  Hell at one point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar system  emitting to much interference and they are sending me out a noise filtering unit  to fix that problem.

  

 We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of  times, luckily for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with  engines so he saved my bacon.

  

 One other problem I ran into was that my battery  wouldn't turn over the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it with  battery cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I think the battery is  either going or already gone to battery heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery  ! 

  

 Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've  attached a couple of pictures for your perusal.

  

 Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one  hopefully to follow shortly  :>}

  

 Wayne Edgerton #40336

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: Start your engine

Just a reminder to anyone using Odyssey style batteries, they do not like being run flat.  Check them every couple months to make sure they are topped off and if you are using them for testing I would recommend keeping a charger on them to make sure they are full.  They keep their charge exceedingly well when in storage but they still need to be checked.  If you run them flat they are basically a paperweight.  

   

  And congratulations Wayne, that’s another big milestone!  

   

Michael Sausen  

-10 #352 Limbo  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton

 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:49 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Start your engine  

  

  

     

There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>}   

    

   

    

I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time I tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge on the engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a know problem that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the engine, the unit shuts down. But as soon as the engine starts it comes back on line. I have to send the unit in for an update to it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar system emitting to much interference and they are sending me out a noise filtering unit to fix that problem.  

    

   

    

We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so he saved my bacon.  

    

   

    

One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn over the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it with battery cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I think the battery is either going or already gone to battery heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery !   

    

   

    

Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple of pictures for your perusal.  

    

   

    

Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to follow shortly  :>}  

    

   

    

Wayne Edgerton #40336  

  

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apilot2(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: Start your engine

Congrats. My UBG16 manual specifically requires it to be off during

start. Only takes it about 5 secs to boot up when I switch it on.



On 5/18/07, Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e(at)grandecom.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone deep

 inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and today was that

 day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the hangar and fired this

 bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to

 turn on the fuel value :>}



 I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time I tried to

 start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge on the engine for oil

 pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a know problem that when there is a

 voltage drop, like starting the engine, the unit shuts down. But as soon as

 the engine starts it comes back on line. I have to send the unit in for an

 update to it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one

 point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar system emitting

 to much interference and they are sending me out a noise filtering unit to

 fix that problem.



 We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for me a

 neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so he saved my

 bacon.



 One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn over the

 engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it with battery cables.

 I'm overnight charging the battery but I think the battery is either going

 or already gone to battery heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery !



 Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple of

 pictures for your perusal.



 Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to follow

 shortly  :>}



 Wayne Edgerton #40336

Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: Start your engine

Good Work Wayne! Congratulations, keep us all posted, on your progress 

as it's inspiring to those of us following behind you.



THANKS



Deems Davis # 406

Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )

http://deemsrv10.com/



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Wayne Edgerton wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone 

 deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and 

 today was that day for me.



  

 Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to follow 

 shortly  :>}

  

 Wayne Edgerton #40336

flysrv10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: Start your engine

At the risk of starting a battery brand war, I would like to offer an alternative to Odessey.

I have been using Sears handicap battery for 15 years in my planes.  This battery, combined with a L model Skytech starter, will crank your IO540 for ever (especially when you have trouble with Hot Starts).  I have actually never seen the end of the life on this battery, I just replace it every three years as a precaution.  This battery costs less, lasts longer, It is available to pick up 7 days a week and if you let it go flat, you just recharge it.  Another bonus is that it fits the existing battery tray in all RVs without any modifications.



I have seen enough neighbors with Odessey batteries laying on shelf as "Paper Weight".



Do not archive.

Rob

On May 18, 2007, at 8:50 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

  Just a reminder to anyone using Odyssey style batteries, they do not like being run flat.  Check them every couple months to make sure they are topped off and if you are using them for testing I would recommend keeping a charger on them to make sure they are full.  They keep their charge exceedingly well when in storage but they still need to be checked.  If you run them flat they are basically a paperweight.

 

  And congratulations Wayne, that’s another big milestone!

 

Michael Sausen

-10 #352 Limbo

 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Wayne EdgertonSent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:49 AMTo: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Start your engine

 

There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>}



 



I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time I tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge on the engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a know problem that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the engine, the unit shuts down. But as soon as the engine starts it comes back on line. I have to send the unit in for an update to it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar system emitting to much interference and they are sending me out a noise filtering unit to fix that problem.



 



We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so he saved my bacon.



 



One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn over the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it with battery cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I think the battery is either going or already gone to battery heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery ! 



 



Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple of pictures for your perusal.



 



Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to follow shortly  :>}



 



Wayne Edgerton #40336



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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: Start your engine

Wayne that is most encouraging news and well appreciated here.  Is that a custom painted AeroComp propeller and what did the whole thing weigh as installed?  It makes me excited to think of your final paint job coming.  

   

John #600  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton

 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 4:49 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Start your engine  

  

     

There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>}   

    

   

    

I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time I tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge on the engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a know problem that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the engine, the unit shuts down. But as soon as the engine starts it comes back on line. I have to send the unit in for an update to it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar system emitting to much interference and they are sending me out a noise filtering unit to fix that problem.  

    

   

    

We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so he saved my bacon.  

    

   

    

One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn over the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it with battery cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I think the battery is either going or already gone to battery heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery !   

    

   

    

Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple of pictures for your perusal.  

    

   

    

Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to follow shortly  :>}  

    

   

    

Wayne Edgerton #40336  

  

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: Start your engine

Weight?  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj

 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:13 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Start your engine  

  

   

At the risk of starting a battery brand war, I would like to offer an alternative to Odessey.    

   

    

I have been using Sears handicap battery for 15 years in my planes.  This battery, combined with a L model Skytech starter, will crank your IO540 for ever (especially when you have trouble with Hot Starts).  I have actually never seen the end of the life on this battery, I just replace it every three years as a precaution.  This battery costs less, lasts longer, It is available to pick up 7 days a week and if you let it go flat, you just recharge it.  Another bonus is that it fits the existing battery tray in all RVs without any modifications.  

    

   

    

I have seen enough neighbors with Odessey batteries laying on shelf as "Paper Weight".  

    

   

    

Do not archive.  

    

Rob  

    

   

    

       

On May 18, 2007, at 8:50 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:  

  



 

     

   

   

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From:There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>}  

    

   

    

We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so he saved my bacon.  

    

   

    

Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple of pictures for your perusal.  

    

   

    

Wayne Edgerton #40336  

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: Start your engine

Congratulations!  Have you already had your inspection?  If not, when?  I will respond below.  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton

 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:49 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Start your engine  

  

     

There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>}[Jesse Saint] Isn’t that a great feeling?  You’re not the first one on the fuel valve issue.  

    

   

    

I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time I tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge on the engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a know problem that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the engine, the unit shuts down. But as soon as the engine starts it comes back on line. I have to send the unit in for an update to it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar system emitting to much interference and they are sending me out a noise filtering unit to fix that problem.  

[Jesse Saint] This is a great time to mention the settings on the RPM gauge on anybody’s engine monitor.  We have had times that it read way low and we couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t getting full power and then realized that the sensor setting on the EMS was not correct.  Before changing anything with the Prop Governor or engine, get a visual tach, point it at the prop and see what you are getting.  That can help avoid big problems.  Of course, if you are reading higher than you are spinning, then it is not necessarily as dangerous, but you still want to fix the reading before you start adjusting.  On the engine monitor, if the option is available to have a backup battery, that is always a good way to go so you can have it on when you start.  I run my EFIS/EMS as the only instrument that comes on with the master so it will be on for starting.  

    

   

    

We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so he saved my bacon.  

    

   

    

One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn over the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it with battery cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I think the battery is either going or already gone to battery heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery !   

    

   

    

Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple of pictures for your perusal.  

    

   

    

Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to follow shortly  :>}  

    

   

    

Wayne Edgerton #40336  

  

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: Start your engine

Heavier than Odessey but don't know how much.  Go to a Sears store and check one out.

Do not archive.



On May 18, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:

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Weight?

 

Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

www.saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Rob KermanjSent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:13 AMTo: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Re: Start your engine



 

At the risk of starting a battery brand war, I would like to offer an alternative to Odessey.

 



I have been using Sears handicap battery for 15 years in my planes.  This battery, combined with a L model Skytech starter, will crank your IO540 for ever (especially when you have trouble with Hot Starts).  I have actually never seen the end of the life on this battery, I just replace it every three years as a precaution.  This battery costs less, lasts longer, It is available to pick up 7 days a week and if you let it go flat, you just recharge it.  Another bonus is that it fits the existing battery tray in all RVs without any modifications.



 



I have seen enough neighbors with Odessey batteries laying on shelf as "Paper Weight".



 



Do not archive.



Rob



 



 

On May 18, 2007, at 8:50 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

 

 

-10 #352 Limbo

From:There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>}



 



We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so he saved my bacon.



 



Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple of pictures for your perusal.



 



Wayne Edgerton #40336

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sam(at)fr8dog.net
Guest

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: Start your engine

What's the Sears part #, I wan't one!

Sam Marlow



Rob Kermanj wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   At the risk of starting a battery brand war, I would like to offer an 

 alternative to Odessey.



 I have been using Sears handicap battery for 15 years in my planes.  

 This battery, combined with a L model Skytech starter, will crank your 

 IO540 for ever (especially when you have trouble with Hot Starts).  I 

 have actually never seen the end of the life on this battery, I just 

 replace it every three years as a precaution.  This battery costs 

 less, lasts longer, It is available to pick up 7 days a week and if 

 you let it go flat, you just recharge it.  Another bonus is that it 

 fits the existing battery tray in all RVs without any modifications.



 I have seen enough neighbors with Odessey batteries laying on shelf as 

 "Paper Weight".



 Do not archive.

 Rob

 On May 18, 2007, at 8:50 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:



>   Just a reminder to anyone using Odyssey style batteries, they do 

> not like being run flat.  Check them every couple months to make sure 

> they are topped off and if you are using them for testing I would 

> recommend keeping a charger on them to make sure they are full.  They 

> keep their charge exceedingly well when in storage but they still 

> need to be checked.  If you run them flat they are basically a 

> paperweight.

>

>  

>

>   And congratulations Wayne, that’s another big milestone!

>

>  

>

> Michael Sausen

>

> -10 #352 Limbo

>

>  

>

> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com 

> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne 

> Edgerton

> *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2007 6:49 AM

> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

> *Subject:* Start your engine

>

>  

>

> There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears someone 

> deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your engine" :>}  and 

> today was that day for me. I was able to roll the plane out of the 

> hangar and fired this bird up. There were a few small glitch's, like 

> you've got to remember to turn on the fuel value :>}

>

>  

>

> I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time I 

> tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge on the 

> engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a know problem 

> that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the engine, the unit 

> shuts down. But as soon as the engine starts it comes back on line. I 

> have to send the unit in for an update to it to fix the problem. The 

> RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one point I got 3800 RPM. This 

> problem was to do with the Lazar system emitting to much interference 

> and they are sending me out a noise filtering unit to fix that problem.

>

>  

>

> We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily for 

> me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with engines so 

> he saved my bacon.

>

>  

>

> One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn over 

> the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it with battery 

> cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I think the battery is 

> either going or already gone to battery heaven. It's a new Odyssey 

> battery ! 

>

>  

>

> Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a couple 

> of pictures for your perusal.

>

>  

>

> Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to 

> follow shortly  :>}

>

>  

>

> Wayne Edgerton #40336

>

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: Start your engine

Don't have a part number.  Ask for a "Wheelchair" battery at Sears.   

It should be about $60 Box.



Do not archive.



On May 18, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Sam Marlow wrote:



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 What's the Sears part #, I wan't one!

 Sam Marlow



 Rob Kermanj wrote:

> At the risk of starting a battery brand war, I would like to offer  

> an alternative to Odessey.

>

> I have been using Sears handicap battery for 15 years in my  

> planes.  This battery, combined with a L model Skytech starter,  

> will crank your IO540 for ever (especially when you have trouble  

> with Hot Starts).  I have actually never seen the end of the life  

> on this battery, I just replace it every three years as a  

> precaution.  This battery costs less, lasts longer, It is  

> available to pick up 7 days a week and if you let it go flat, you  

> just recharge it.  Another bonus is that it fits the existing  

> battery tray in all RVs without any modifications.

>

> I have seen enough neighbors with Odessey batteries laying on  

> shelf as "Paper Weight".

>

> Do not archive.

> Rob

> On May 18, 2007, at 8:50 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

>

>>   Just a reminder to anyone using Odyssey style batteries, they  

>> do not like being run flat.  Check them every couple months to  

>> make sure they are topped off and if you are using them for  

>> testing I would recommend keeping a charger on them to make sure  

>> they are full.  They keep their charge exceedingly well when in  

>> storage but they still need to be checked.  If you run them flat  

>> they are basically a paperweight.

>>

>>

>>   And congratulations Wayne, that’s another big milestone!

>>

>>

>> Michael Sausen

>>

>> -10 #352 Limbo

>>

>>

>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10- 

>> list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Edgerton

>> *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2007 6:49 AM

>> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

>> *Subject:* Start your engine

>>

>>

>> There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears  

>> someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your  

>> engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll  

>> the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a  

>> few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the  

>> fuel value :>}

>>

>>

>> I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time  

>> I tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge  

>> on the engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a  

>> know problem that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the  

>> engine, the unit shuts down. But as soon as the engine starts it  

>> comes back on line. I have to send the unit in for an update to  

>> it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one  

>> point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar  

>> system emitting to much interference and they are sending me out  

>> a noise filtering unit to fix that problem.

>>

>>

>> We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily  

>> for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with  

>> engines so he saved my bacon.

>>

>>

>> One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn  

>> over the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it  

>> with battery cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I  

>> think the battery is either going or already gone to battery  

>> heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery !

>>

>> Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a  

>> couple of pictures for your perusal.

>>

>>

>> Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to  

>> follow shortly  :>}

>>

>>

>> Wayne Edgerton #40336

>>

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KiloPapa

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Pearblossom, CA

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Start your engine

Good info.

  

 Kevin

40494

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capsteve

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: NIAGARA FALLS NY

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: Start your engine

It’s odd but my experience has been quite different. I’ve killed the pc680 in my 6a at least 5 times since completion in 2001. and I’m talking leaving the master on for days before I notice…when I show up to fly I smack my forehead (doh!)  throw the charger on for a while ,then go flying…. Now, ,I noticed it does take a bit longer than a wet cell battery to take an initial charge, similar to a deep cycle, but it will come around..  I don’t normally test my batts to find discharge rates over time, but I do expect them to work well after a week of sitting out in a western ny winter.  If they pass that test their still good. (imho).  I’ve been using this type of batt almost daily in the auto customs we put together, everything from audio, hydraulics, rv’s and travel trailers, and have been convinced that this is the best technology we have to date. Just a fyi….kenetik battery makes a 26 lb 800 agm batt that fits the rv10 battery tray almost perfectly.   

   

   

Specifications   

Weight: 26 lbs.   

Ah: 36   

Amps: 950   

Dimensions: 7.6" x 5" x 6"  

   

Steven dinieri  

Iflyrv10.com  

40205  

   

         

  

  

  Just a reminder to anyone using Odyssey style batteries, they do not like being run flat.  Check them every couple months to make sure they are topped off and if you are using them for testing I would recommend keeping a charger on them to make sure they are full.  They keep their charge exceedingly well when in storage but they still need to be checked.  If you run them flat they are basically a paperweight.  

   

  And congratulations Wayne, that’s another big milestone!  

   

Michael Sausen  

-10 #352 Limbo  

   

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james.k.hovis(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: Start your engine

I've had good luck with sealed lead acid batteries in another

application from these guys:

http://www.batterymart.com/c-sealed-lead-acid-batteries.html



Not sure what AHr rating you'd need for Lyc engine starting.



Kevin H.

On 5/18/07, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Don't have a part number.  Ask for a "Wheelchair" battery at Sears.

 It should be about $60 Box.



 Do not archive.



 On May 18, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Sam Marlow wrote:



 > 

 >

 > What's the Sears part #, I wan't one!

 > Sam Marlow

 >

 > Rob Kermanj wrote:

 >> At the risk of starting a battery brand war, I would like to offer

 >> an alternative to Odessey.

 >>

 >> I have been using Sears handicap battery for 15 years in my

 >> planes.  This battery, combined with a L model Skytech starter,

 >> will crank your IO540 for ever (especially when you have trouble

 >> with Hot Starts).  I have actually never seen the end of the life

 >> on this battery, I just replace it every three years as a

 >> precaution.  This battery costs less, lasts longer, It is

 >> available to pick up 7 days a week and if you let it go flat, you

 >> just recharge it.  Another bonus is that it fits the existing

 >> battery tray in all RVs without any modifications.

 >>

 >> I have seen enough neighbors with Odessey batteries laying on

 >> shelf as "Paper Weight".

 >>

 >> Do not archive.

 >> Rob

 >>

 >>

 >> On May 18, 2007, at 8:50 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

 >>

 >>>   Just a reminder to anyone using Odyssey style batteries, they

 >>> do not like being run flat.  Check them every couple months to

 >>> make sure they are topped off and if you are using them for

 >>> testing I would recommend keeping a charger on them to make sure

 >>> they are full.  They keep their charge exceedingly well when in

 >>> storage but they still need to be checked.  If you run them flat

 >>> they are basically a paperweight.

 >>>

 >>>

 >>>   And congratulations Wayne, that's another big milestone!

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> Michael Sausen

 >>>

 >>> -10 #352 Limbo

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-

 >>> list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Edgerton

 >>> *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2007 6:49 AM

 >>> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 >>> *Subject:* Start your engine

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> There comes a time with every builder when he or she hears

 >>> someone deep inside the hangar say "Gentlemen start your

 >>> engine" :>}  and today was that day for me. I was able to roll

 >>> the plane out of the hangar and fired this bird up. There were a

 >>> few small glitch's, like you've got to remember to turn on the

 >>> fuel value :>}

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> I had trouble with my EI engine monitor going off line each time

 >>> I tried to start the engine. We ended up putting an analog gauge

 >>> on the engine for oil pressure and forged on. The EI unit has a

 >>> know problem that when there is a voltage drop, like starting the

 >>> engine, the unit shuts down. But as soon as the engine starts it

 >>> comes back on line. I have to send the unit in for an update to

 >>> it to fix the problem. The RPM was also acting goofy. Hell at one

 >>> point I got 3800 RPM. This problem was to do with the Lazar

 >>> system emitting to much interference and they are sending me out

 >>> a noise filtering unit to fix that problem.

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> We had to adjust the mixture and idle a couple of times, luckily

 >>> for me a neighbor on the field and a good friend is great with

 >>> engines so he saved my bacon.

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> One other problem I ran into was that my battery wouldn't turn

 >>> over the engine enough to start it so we had to jump start it

 >>> with battery cables. I'm overnight charging the battery but I

 >>> think the battery is either going or already gone to battery

 >>> heaven. It's a new Odyssey battery !

 >>>

 >>> Anyway I thought I would report my progress. I've attached a

 >>> couple of pictures for your perusal.

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> Small RV grin in place right now with a bigger one hopefully to

 >>> follow shortly  :>}

 >>>

 >>>

 >>> Wayne Edgerton #40336

 >>>

 >>> *         - The RV10-List Email Forum - class="Apple-converted-

 >>> space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-

 >>> List              - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -  class="Apple-

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