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Can Rotax be self exciting?

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Can Rotax be self exciting? Reply with quote

Could Z-16 (Rotax 912/914 System) incorporate self excitation feature as
seen in Z25 (note 25) and be self exciting and maintain overvoltage
protection?

Thx.
Ron Parigoris


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Can Rotax be self exciting? Reply with quote

At 06:14 AM 5/23/2007 +0000, you wrote:

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Could Z-16 (Rotax 912/914 System) incorporate self excitation feature as
seen in Z25 (note 25) and be self exciting and maintain overvoltage
protection?

Thx.
Ron Parigoris

Probably. But this is based on a schematic deduced
by individuals who disassembled a Ducati regulator.
The regulator topology is very close to that of the
regulator sold by B&C so assuming that our presumptions
are accurate and that the diagram has not changed,
the answer would be yes.

Bottom line is that the repeatable experiment rules.
Try it, see what results you get and then let us know
one way or another.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Can Rotax be self exciting? Reply with quote

Hello,

I have found two aftermarket products which claim to run without battery with capacitor only:

http://www.schicke-electronic.de/dgr3.htm switches near the zero transition and thus produces very low noise. Consider the cooling fins in comparison to the original Rotax regulator and You may believe it is a product designed for very long life.
http://www.silent-hektik.com/Duc_R_Rot.htm run Rotax injection which is electrical dependent. They say that the engine will continue running as long as it is above 1000rpm with capacitor only.
Hope that helps especially for the 912 / 914 engines
Bob is right once more (Smile
Richard
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Can Rotax be self exciting? Reply with quote

The Jabiru PM alternator/ with rectifier regulator also runs when fitted according to Bob’s plan Z note 25 . It is a big advantage for very little cost.
Peter


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I have found two aftermarket products which claim to run without battery with capacitor only:



http://www.schicke-electronic.de/dgr3.htm switches near the zero transition and thus produces very low noise. Consider the cooling fins in comparison to the original Rotax regulator and You may believe it is a product designed for very long life.

http://www.silent-hektik.com/Duc_R_Rot.htm run Rotax injection which is electrical dependent. They say that the engine will continue running as long as it is above 1000rpm with capacitor only.

Hope that helps especially for the 912 / 914 engines

Bob is right once more (Smile

Richard
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Can Rotax be self exciting? Reply with quote

Thanks Richard,
This is very interesting. We'll if it works on a Ducati... Any idea if there is anything like this available for a Subaru? Does it matter? Could this be adapted to any electrically dependent system?
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