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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: DVD - Pop Up Display |
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RV-10 list,
Let me preface this post with the fact that I have a nervous flying wife & daughter that need a distraction while traveling in general aviation.
I was planning on including a 7” DVD pop-up display (with XM, iPod, CD etc…) on my -10 panel plus two LCD displays in the headrests. The DVD I ordered a nice 1 din unit at a good price on ebay ($329.00 pop up unit only, no rear LCD’s) When it arrived it was MUCH heavier than I anticipated. I assumed that they would all be about the same weight (3-5 lbs.) so I didn’t do a lot of research. My stout little unit weighs in at 9.50 lbs before I add the rear displays. I see a few units that are 5-6 lbs but they are 2.5 times more expensive.
I was hoping to avoid lap dvd players or laptops so the pax can all have the same dvd experience and at the same time avoid all the extra loose hardware and chargers flying around the cabin in the case of a unscheduled landing.
I would appreciate any suggestions as long as they don’t include finding a way to get the family into flying. I am sure when we start doing real x-country trips on a more regular basis they will naturally (and slowly) become more comfortable with GA travel.
Thanks in advance,
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Fly
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rene(at)felker.com
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: DVD - Pop Up Display |
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I put a PAV80 in my panel and have two remote screens for the back seats. It is made by PS Engineering (www.ps-engineering.com/entertainment.shtml.
Watch out for the price.
I am not flying yet, so I can not vouch for how well it works…..
Rene'
40322 Finish or something like it….
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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: DVD - Pop Up Display |
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Rene, I found the weight of the PS head unit in the data sheets (2.8 lbs) but once you add the one screen (to be comparable to my head unit) it’s probably 4.5 lbs lighter than my unit. Unfortunately as a certified unit I am more likely to remove my spleen (to save weight) than spend $3,000 + $800 + 3 x $400… $4,000 for my family’s aviation entertainment. (insert additional cheep jokes here)
I am sure the PS is a great unit and maybe after I burn up my unit two or three times the PS would have made more sense. I am sure your system is going to be fantastic.
Thanks for your input.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:25 PM
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Subject: RE: DVD - Pop Up Display
I put a PAV80 in my panel and have two remote screens for the back seats. It is made by PS Engineering (www.ps-engineering.com/entertainment.shtml.
Watch out for the price.
I am not flying yet, so I can not vouch for how well it works…..
Rene'nd the
40322 Finish or something like it….
N423CF
801-721-6080
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coop85(at)cableone.net
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: DVD - Pop Up Display |
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Robin,
I had the same concern and went with the cheapest pop-up DVD player I could find on eBay. Shipped from China but works great overall. It was a little heavy, although I didn’t actually weigh it. The performance of the -10 is so great that a few extra pounds is well worth keeping the family happy. My wife measures trips in how many DVDs to take and loves it. The only drawback with the el cheapo is it doesn’t like heat too much. If I leave it powered off until at cruise there’s no issues, but on a warm day down low it will start to skip and go stupid so I’m working on better cooling air for it.
Marcus
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:05 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: DVD - Pop Up Display
RV-10 list,
Let me preface this post with the fact that I have a nervous flying wife & daughter that need a distraction while traveling in general aviation.
I was planning on including a 7” DVD pop-up display (with XM, iPod, CD etc…) on my -10 panel plus two LCD displays in the headrests. The DVD I ordered a nice 1 din unit at a good price on ebay ($329.00 pop up unit only, no rear LCD’s) When it arrived it was MUCH heavier than I anticipated. I assumed that they would all be about the same weight (3-5 lbs.) so I didn’t do a lot of research. My stout little unit weighs in at 9.50 lbs before I add the rear displays. I see a few units that are 5-6 lbs but they are 2.5 times more expensive.
I was hoping to avoid lap dvd players or laptops so the pax can all have the same dvd experience and at the same time avoid all the extra loose hardware and chargers flying around the cabin in the case of a unscheduled landing.
I would appreciate any suggestions as long as they don’t include finding a way to get the family into flying. I am sure when we start doing real x-country trips on a more regular basis they will naturally (and slowly) become more comfortable with GA travel.
Thanks in advance,
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Fly
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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: DVD - Pop Up Display |
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I also wanted entertainment for nervous or bored passengers - and some buttons that they are allowed to push  ...
i spec'd it out a couple different ways, so i could change my mind a few more times based on my mood that day...
lightest weight/best bang for the buck:
headrest style monitor with a video ipod providing all the entertainment. this provides more music and movies than you'll ever have time to play while flying, and ends up being really lightweight. car stereos that play dvds are pretty heavy for a couple reasons - the dvd motor and transport, and also the amplifiers in the unit. remember that car stereos are meant to supply approprate power to drive speakers directly, something that we in the airplane building business aren't interested in. with the ipod weighing 5.5 oz and a plane jane video monitor like this -
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=15966 you come in pretty lightweight. the pop-up dash monitors like this one:
http://www.mobilevideo4less.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MV&Product_Code=ID7169 are nice because they get out of the way when you're not using them, but you get a bit of a weight penalty from the motor.
there's also some more elegant solutions for this type of setup, but then you start a little more weight, and also cost. for those interested, check this out:
http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/products/product_acc.php?model=KCE-415i
this is an interface that works with ipod, charges the unit, and allows you to control the ipod from a touch screen monitor. the monitor that works with it is a bit spendy, but i bet it looks amazing.
using the ipod for video is a pretty sweet solution, and there's some great software out there thats FREE to rip your DVD movies and stick em on the ipod. and when you get to where you're going you have your ipod with you. cool.
i also looked around at dvd changers that have all the bells and whistles. i bought one that either will go in the airplane or my girlfriend's car. haven't quite decided yet. the cool thing about it is that it's got interfaces for both sirius and xm, a 6 disc dvd changer, ipod controller, external video inputs, and i think it'll toast a pop-tart. it is heavy though...
then there's the 1/2 din stand-alone dvd/cd/mp3 player that is tiny and lightweight, and that coupled with any stand-alone screen would provide hours of entertainment, be very lightweight, and could be done pretty cheaply. something like this:
http://www.mobilevideo4less.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MV&Product_Code=DV-180
i'm pretty sure this one isn't IFR certified though...
can anybody guess what i do for a living?
cj
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john_rv10(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: DVD - Pop Up Display |
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Chris,
That is fantastic.
Thank you,
John
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