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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

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Go with a 12v fan.

Speaking of avionics cooling fans, I already bought one from ACS but I
didn't installed it yet.
It has 3 port, which I will direct one to the EFIS, other to the center
avionics stack ( COMM, TXPD and GPS) and the third to several electronic
boards mounted behind the panel.
Whilst planning its installation, I still didn't decide how to switch power
to it:

- should it have a dedicated "manual" On/Off switch?
- or, would it be better to hook it up to the Avionics master switch
(yes, I have one, please don't discuss this subject now)? This way the fan
will be turned On whenever I turn On the Avionics master switch..
- or, what I believe it would be the best way, i.e to install a
thermostatic switch, which would turn On the fan whenever the air
temperature behind the panel gets too hot .

In this last solution, where can I find a thermostatic switch? And what
should be that temperature limit?

Comments and suggestions appreciated !

Carlos Trigo
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Hello Carlos,

I purchased the AmeriKing 3-port cooling fan from ACS, but returned it
due to its bulky size and the limited area I had for mounting such in an
IFR
RV-7. I settled on the 3-port Cyclone fan from ACS which is lighter and
about 1/3 the size of the AmeriKing unit.

I do not have an avionics master or the E-buss, so I installed a panel
mounted switch for the avionics cooling fan to allow load shedding if
the alternator drops off line. My EFIS has an internal back-up battery
and all other panel electronics are controlled by the unit power switch
or a panel mounted switch.

Connecting the cooling fan to the avionics master (main buss) seems like
a good plan, but I would not put it on the E-buss if you incorporated
such.

Bill
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Lee's Summit, MO
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

At 12:05 PM 5/26/2007 +0100, you wrote:

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<trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>

>
> Go with a 12v fan.
>

Speaking of avionics cooling fans, I already bought one from ACS but I
didn't installed it yet.
It has 3 port, which I will direct one to the EFIS, other to the center
avionics stack ( COMM, TXPD and GPS) and the third to several electronic
boards mounted behind the panel.
Whilst planning its installation, I still didn't decide how to switch
power to it:

- should it have a dedicated "manual" On/Off switch?
- or, would it be better to hook it up to the Avionics master switch
(yes, I have one, please don't discuss this subject now)? This way the
fan will be turned On whenever I turn On the Avionics master switch..
- or, what I believe it would be the best way, i.e to install a
thermostatic switch, which would turn On the fan whenever the air
temperature behind the panel gets too hot .

In this last solution, where can I find a thermostatic switch? And what
should be that temperature limit?

Keep it simple. Hot wire it to the e-bus. Any time
any radio is on, the fan is on.

Bob . . .

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( "Physics is like sex: sure, it may )
( give some practical results, but )
( that's not why we do it." )
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Bill

Can you please post the Cyclone fan dimensions and weight difference.
Has it the same blowing capacity of the Ameri-King?

Carlos

P.S. - if I decide for the thermostatic switch, who knows a source for that

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

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Connecting the cooling fan to the avionics master (main buss) seems like
a good plan, but I would not put it on the E-buss if you incorporated
such.

Good thought. Normally, the e-bus has a minimum of radios
on it and when operating e-bus only, cooling would not be
expected to be necessary. I agree, the fan should hot
wire to the main bus.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Carlos,

The Cyclone has somewhat less airflow than the Ameri-King and I believe
the dimensions are about 4" X 4" X 1.25" with an approximate weight of 6
oz. I don't have the exact figures as I have not yet received the
Cyclone fan - ordered last Friday.

An RV-9 friend was helping me on my project and I told him I was having
trouble finding a suitable location to mount the cooling fan. Of course,
he began identifying many locations...then I showed him the Ameri-King
fan. He then said, "Send it back and get the Cyclone." So, that's what I
did. The figures I gave here were his approximations. I can provide the
exact weight & measurements next week unless someone else on the list
here beats me to it.

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Thanks Bill

That is enough for me.
Maybe I should do the same as you, since I concluded (after a search on my
shelves) that I also have the Ameri-King.
By the way, where did you decide to install your fan ?

Carlos
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Carlos,

I am mounting the fan on the inside of the left panel rib between the
sub-panel and firewall. There are likely better places, but the full
panel and wiring runs restricted such for my installation.

I didn't have any trouble returning the Ameri-King to ACS even though I
was outside of their 30-day return period and the unit was still in
"new" condition. They said there may be a 15% restocking fee...we'll
see.

Bill

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Carlos,

I attached some photos of the Cyclone fan to illustrate its compact
size.

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Thanks Bill

Very nice little critter
Did you already test power it, to hear its noise?

Carlos
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Avionics cooling Fan Reply with quote

Yes, no better or worse than others.

Bill

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