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debrun26(at)juno.com
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 Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: Kitfox-List:HELP!!! Ellsion TBI, Gas starvation |
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I recently bought a series 5 with a subaru NSI engine and ellison TBI My CFI was flying it up from Seattle to Anchorage, Ak a couple days ago and had a BAD fuel starvation problem. He almost didn't make it to Whitehorse, Canada because it was running so rough. He took the Throttle Body Inector off and will be here in Anchorage with it tonight, where I will send it back to Ellison for a diagnosis. The question I have is that he couldn't find a fuel filter and there was also no air filter in the air box. Where do I look and does KitfoxLLC have air filters for the NSI Subaru equipt Series 5's? Help me if you can. I'm going to drive to Whitehorse to do a fuel flow check from the wing tanks to the engine and see if it's sufficient, but I also need to either find the fuel filter and change it or put one in. I can't believe it doesn't have one. This almost cost my CFI his life so I really need some answers.
Also, when talking to the owner of Ellison, He said that they were the supplier of the TBI for the turbocharged subaru engine but they didn't feel their TBI's were a good match for the subaru so NSI bought the parts from Ellison and retrofitted them. Mr. Ellison continues to feel uncomfortable with his TBI's in the turbo'd NSI Subaru. Thanks, Layne [quote][b]
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Michael Logan
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: Kitfox-List:HELP!!! Ellsion TBI, Gas starvation |
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Layne,
The Ellison in my NSI has a finger strainer on the inlet. The air box on the throttle body has space for a foam filter element. I got my replacement element material from a John Deere dealership. It is just a long piece of air filter foam that I cut to length and stuff into the filter holder on the front of the air box. The Ellison EFS-2 is not very well suited for the NSI Subaru engine, it does not really have enough flow through it. On the Subaru, it is operating at well over its rated flow capability. The -3 or larger would have been a much better fit.
I hope there is some other sort of filter on your fuel lines between the tank and throttle body. The gascolater is not a filter by any stretch of the imagination.
Mike Logan
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Subject: Kitfox-List:HELP!!! Ellsion TBI, Gas starvation
I recently bought a series 5 with a subaru NSI engine and ellison TBI My CFI was flying it up from Seattle to Anchorage, Ak a couple days ago and had a BAD fuel starvation problem. He almost didn't make it to Whitehorse, Canada because it was running so rough. He took the Throttle Body Inector off and will be here in Anchorage with it tonight, where I will send it back to Ellison for a diagnosis. The question I have is that he couldn't find a fuel filter and there was also no air filter in the air box. Where do I look and does KitfoxLLC have air filters for the NSI Subaru equipt Series 5's? Help me if you can. I'm going to drive to Whitehorse to do a fuel flow check from the wing tanks to the engine and see if it's sufficient, but I also need to either find the fuel filter and change it or put one in. I can't believe it doesn't have one. This almost cost my CFI his life so I really need some answers.
Also, when talking to the owner of Ellison, He said that they were the supplier of the TBI for the turbocharged subaru engine but they didn't feel their TBI's were a good match for the subaru so NSI bought the parts from Ellison and retrofitted them. Mr. Ellison continues to feel uncomfortable with his TBI's in the turbo'd NSI Subaru. Thanks, Layne [quote]
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tstaley(at)centurytel.net
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: Kitfox-List:HELP!!! Ellsion TBI, Gas starvation |
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Layne,
My Kitfox 5 is also with the NSI package. To access the fuel filter you must first remove the seat, it is located beneath, and in the middle of the seats.
I did also have to send my Ellison unit to them as it started a slow leak. Somewhat like a needle seat in a standart carb.
Hope this helps.
LeRoy
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