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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: fire!!! Reply with quote

Mike thanks for the info on the fire and you were lucky...
I got from a friend of mine a method he uses to fuel his firestar and will pass it on for what it is worth. It works well for me and also makes sense. I was having trouble trying to use mr funnel at the gas station filling my 6 gal plastic tanks. The gas came out faster than the funnel would take it. I now fill plastic can without the funnel, I also add the oil. When I get home I pour the gas from the 6 gal can into 1 gal. plastic jug, the type that wind shield washer fluid comes in. I then put the funnel in top of tank in my firestar and fill from the gallon jug...It sounds like a lot of monkey work but it works and easy to do. We still need to know if we should ground the plane when doing this and it seems to me it would not hurt anything.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: fire!!! Reply with quote

Jim -

You write that you fill your 6 gal. gas can at the gas
station and add oil, and later run the entire mixture
through Mr. Funnel. I've been told that the Mr.
Funnel manufacturer states that it works only with
gasoline - not with a gas-oil mixture. I can't find
the source. Anyone have any info about this?

Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon

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Mike thanks for the info on the fire and you were
lucky...
I got from a friend of mine a method he uses to
fuel his firestar and will
pass it on for what it is worth. It works well for
me and also makes sense. I
was having trouble trying to use mr funnel at the
gas station filling my 6
gal plastic tanks. The gas came out faster than the
funnel would take it. I
now fill plastic can without the funnel, I also add
the oil. When I get home I
pour the gas from the 6 gal can into 1 gal. plastic
jug, the type that wind
shield washer fluid comes in. I then put the funnel
in top of tank in my
firestar and fill from the gallon jug...It sounds
like a lot of monkey work but it
works and easy to do. We still need to know if we
should ground the plane
when doing this and it seems to me it would not hurt
anything.

jim Swan
firestar ll michigan
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: fire!!! Reply with quote

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Jim -

You write that you fill your 6 gal. gas can at the gas
station and add oil, and later run the entire mixture
through Mr. Funnel. I've been told that the Mr.
Funnel manufacturer states that it works only with
gasoline - not with a gas-oil mixture. I can't find
the source. Anyone have any info about this?

Arty Trost

http://www.mrfunnel.com/Mr.%20Funnel/FAQ.html

Q. Will the filter work on mixed fuel with 2-cycle oil in it?
A. Yes, but if your 2-cycle oil has a detergent base the detergents
can break down molecules of water and some water might pass the
screen. Usually only a drop or two but if you are concerned, filter
the fuel a second time because unless the sump is full of water, it
is not possible that any water passed the filter.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: fire!!! Reply with quote

Arty et al:

For what it is worth, I have been using the method Jim describes for 15 years and have never had a problem. In addition to what Jim describes, I hold the gallon jug up to the light before I pour it through the funnel. If there is water, it will be visible in the bottom of the gallon jug. Even a very small amount. As Jim says, it seems like "monkey work", but I haven't found the extra effort a problem.


As for the 2 cycle mix messing up the Mr. Funnel.....From the FAQ page of their web site ( http://www.mrfunnel.com/FAQ.html )

Q. Will the filter work on mixed fuel with 2-cycle oil in it?
A. Yes, but if your 2-cycle oil has a detergent base the detergents can break down molecules of water and some water might pass the screen. Usually only a drop or two but if you are concerned, filter the fuel a second time because unless the sump is full of water, it is not possible that any water passed the filter.


To minimize the chance of static discharge, whether at the pump or at the plane, I make sure that all components involved in the transfer process are in constant contact with each other from start to finish. When filling my cans, the nozzle rests against the neck of the can and I hold the can with my free hand. When filling the plane, I steady the Mr. Funnel with the free hand and the mouth of the gallon jug rests on the lip of the Mr. Funnel. My body ties all the components together, electrically.

As Beauford would say...... Worth what you paid for it!

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