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Don G

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 156
Location: Central Illinois

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: More on Cowlings

With all this talk on cowls, and just recently seeing a pic of Lynns beautiful MKIV with his custom cowl. I would like to inquire if there is an cowl somewhere avail for the 912 equipped mk4. 

Something low and sleek?  

With better vis than the big ol round bumpy job?

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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
RV9A

l.morris(at)tx.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: More on Cowlings

Hey Don, not to change the subject but did you build your model 4 speedster and if so how did you install the 1" backing strip for the wing tips? Did you cut it into two pieces to get around the rear spar and did you stop at the trailing edge where the backing strip for flaperon bracket is glued?---Leon Morris/Classic 4/50%/Flower Mound,TX

---- Don G <donghe(at)one-eleven.net> wrote: 

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 With all this talk on cowls, and just recently seeing a pic of Lynns beautiful MKIV with his custom cowl. I would like to inquire if there is an cowl somewhere avail for the 912 equipped mk4. 

 Something low and sleek?  

 With better vis than the big ol round bumpy job?

 

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 Don G.

 Central Illinois

 Kitfox IV Speedster

 Luscombe 8A

 

 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117058#117058

Don G

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 156
Location: Central Illinois

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: Re: More on Cowlings

Leon,

No Sir, I did not build the KitFox....bought it 3rd hand.

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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
RV9A

l.morris(at)tx.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: More on Cowlings

Hey Don, thanks for the quick reponse.One more question,do you know or could you check on how far from the trailing edge of your wing tips do your rivets or srews start?I'm assuming the backing strip for the wing tip doesn't go all the way to the trailing end,(going over the backing strip for the flaperion bracket).Thanks!---Leon Morris/classic 4/50%/Flower Mound,TX

---- Don G <donghe(at)one-eleven.net> wrote: 

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 Leon,

 No Sir, I did not build the KitFox....bought it 3rd hand.

 

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 Don G.

 Central Illinois

 Kitfox IV Speedster

 Luscombe 8A

 

 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117102#117102

Don G

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 156
Location: Central Illinois

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: More on Cowlings

Leon,

Sure, when get to the hangar tomorrow afternoon, I will measure them for you, maybe take a pic.

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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
RV9A

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:31 am Post subject: More on Cowlings

At 08:00 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Hey Don, not to change the subject but did you build your model 4 

speedster and if so how did you install the 1" backing strip for the 

wing tips? Did you cut it into two pieces to get around the rear 

spar and did you stop at the trailing edge where the backing strip 

for flaperon bracket is glued?


	


Hi Leon,

         Sorry you didn't get any replies on this. I wasn't the 

builder of my wings, but I know the backing strips are separated at 

the rear spar. My strip goes to the TE as I'm not a speedster.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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Guy Buchanan
Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

l.morris(at)tx.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: More on Cowlings

Hey Guy, thanks for the reply.I to have a backing strip on the inboard side of the last rib because the manual is combined for the standard 4 and speedster and they have you install it in one section,ans the in the options section (speedster wing tips) the have you install a 1" backing strip on the outboard side of the last rib.And the backing strips are also there for the flaperon bracket.If I were to extend the 1" strip to the end I think the rivets may interfer with the flaperon bracket install.--Leon---Leon Morris/Classic 4 Sptr/50%/Flower Mound,Tx

---- Guy Buchanan <bnn(at)nethere.com> wrote: 

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 At 08:00 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote:

 >Hey Don, not to change the subject but did you build your model 4 

 >speedster and if so how did you install the 1" backing strip for the 

 >wing tips? Did you cut it into two pieces to get around the rear 

 >spar and did you stop at the trailing edge where the backing strip 

 >for flaperon bracket is glued?

 

 Hi Leon,

          Sorry you didn't get any replies on this. I wasn't the 

 builder of my wings, but I know the backing strips are separated at 

 the rear spar. My strip goes to the TE as I'm not a speedster.

 

 

 Guy Buchanan

 San Diego, CA

 K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

Don G

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 156
Location: Central Illinois

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: More on Cowlings

Leon, 

OK, here is the way my speedster tip are riveted.



From the trailing edge forward, the first rivet on the top side is exactly 3 1/2 inchs. This puts it pretty close to even with the third rivet in the flaperon bracket....not quite..maybe 1/2 a rivet off



On the bottom, the first rivet is 3 inchs forward of the trailing edge. So obviously there is a backing strip aft of the flaperon bracket. Top and bottom.



I might add that the edge of the fiberglass wingtip fits up right next to the flaperon bracket. It would take a feeler gage to see if there is clearance.



Hope this helps you!

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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
RV9A

l.morris(at)tx.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: More on Cowlings

Thanks Don, it does clear up on what I was thinking.Thanks for your time and effort.--Leon--- Leon Morris/Classic 4/50%/Flower Mound,TX

---- Don G <donghe(at)one-eleven.net> wrote: 

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Leon, 

 OK, here is the way my speedster tip are riveted.

 

 >From the trailing edge forward, the first rivet on the top side is exactly 3 1/2 inchs. This puts it pretty close to even with the third rivet in the flaperon bracket....not quite..maybe 1/2 a rivet off

 

 On the bottom, the first rivet is 3 inchs forward of the trailing edge. So obviously there is a backing strip aft of the flaperon bracket. Top and bottom.

 

 I might add that the edge of the fiberglass wingtip fits up right next to the flaperon bracket. It would take a feeler gage to see if there is clearance.

 

 Hope this helps you!

 

 --------

 Don G.

 Central Illinois

 Kitfox IV Speedster

 Luscombe 8A

 

 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117415#117415

l.morris(at)tx.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: More on Cowlings

Hey Don,thanks again for your trouble.After going out and looking over my wings I guess I have one of two options; remove the 1/2" backing strip on the outside of the #9 with a heat gun and epoxy the 1" strip into place,but don't rivet the trailing edge area until installing the flaperon bracket;or I can just epoxy the 1" backing strips over the 1/2" strips at the trailing edge and not rivet the tail end until installing the bracket. I really don't like either idea.--Leon    Leon Morris/Classic4(1994)/50%/Flower Mound,TX

---- Don G <donghe(at)one-eleven.net> wrote: 

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Leon, 

 OK, here is the way my speedster tip are riveted.

 

 >From the trailing edge forward, the first rivet on the top side is exactly 3 1/2 inchs. This puts it pretty close to even with the third rivet in the flaperon bracket....not quite..maybe 1/2 a rivet off

 

 On the bottom, the first rivet is 3 inchs forward of the trailing edge. So obviously there is a backing strip aft of the flaperon bracket. Top and bottom.

 

 I might add that the edge of the fiberglass wingtip fits up right next to the flaperon bracket. It would take a feeler gage to see if there is clearance.

 

 Hope this helps you!

 

 --------

 Don G.

 Central Illinois

 Kitfox IV Speedster

 Luscombe 8A

 

 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117415#117415

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