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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: Fuel Fittings

I am working with the kit-supplied fuel selector valve (601XL, dual sticks). It is located on my center console, about the middle. It has three 1/4"NPT ports (female threads), one on the side(input), one on top and one on the back face (output). Because of the width of the console and other constraints, I must use 90 degree fittings on the side and top ports.  When I screw the fittings in, finger tight, they are facing the wrong way.  Swivel-type fittings would require first installing a 1/4"NPT to -6AN adapter fitting, then the swivel fittings.  The console is not wide enough for that. I have searched Summit Racing Equipment's extensive fittings catalog and have not found anything that would work. At this point, I can't mount the selector valve remotely.



I am at a loss, or maybe just stuck on stupid. Any suggestions?



Jay in Dallas

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lrepilot(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: Fuel Fittings

Jay,

  When I screw the fittings

 	  Quote: 	
		   in, finger tight, they are facing the wrong way. 

Can you get them oriented correctly when they are
	


doped and tightened with a wrench? if not, an easy

solution is to open the 1/4NPT thread another 1/2 turn

or so by running a tap in the holes. The thread is

tapered.



ken

       

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Gig Giacona

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Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Fittings

Jay, let me know what you come up with because I'm about a month away from the exact same problem.

 	  Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote: 	
		  I am working with the kit-supplied fuel selector valve (601XL, dual sticks). It is located on my center console, about the middle. It has three 1/4"NPT ports (female threads), one on the side(input), one on top and one on the back face (output). Because of the width of the console and other constraints, I must use 90 degree fittings on the side and top ports.  When I screw the fittings in, finger tight, they are facing the wrong way.  Swivel-type fittings would require first installing a 1/4"NPT to -6AN adapter fitting, then the swivel fittings.  The console is not wide enough for that. I have searched Summit Racing Equipment's extensive fittings catalog and have not found anything that would work. At this point, I can't mount the selector valve remotely.



I am at a loss, or maybe just stuck on stupid. Any suggestions?



Jay in Dallas

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: Fuel Fittings

Hi Jay,



Have you tried the local hardware store?  They probably have a 

thousand different 1/4 NPT fittings and a helpful sales person.



Paul

XL fuselage

do not archive



At 06:56 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I have searched Summit Racing Equipment's extensive fittings catalog 

and have not found anything that would work. At this point, I can't 

mount the selector valve remotely.



I am at a loss, or maybe just stuck on stupid. Any suggestions

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ccwacker(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: Fuel Fittings

This may sound silly; use a wrench to turn the fitting to where you need it.



Chuck Wacker

N601CW Quick Build

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		  From: Jaybannist(at)cs.com

Reply-To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Fuel Fittings

Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:56:15 -0400






I am working with the kit-supplied fuel selector valve (601XL, dual 

sticks). It is located on my center console, about the middle. It has three 

1/4"NPT ports (female threads), one on the side(input), one on top and one 

on the back face (output). Because of the width of the console and other 

constraints, I must use 90 degree fittings on the side and top ports.  When 

I screw the fittings in, finger tight, they are facing the wrong way.  

Swivel-type fittings would require first installing a 1/4"NPT to -6AN 

adapter fitting, then the swivel fittings.  The console is not wide enough 

for that. I have searched Summit Racing Equipment's extensive fittings 

catalog and have not found anything that would work. At this point, I can't 

mount the selector valve remotely.



I am at a loss, or maybe just stuck on stupid. Any suggestions?



Jay in Dallas






	


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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: Fuel Fittings

Gig,

I didn't get any really satisfactory answers to the question of orientation of the 90 degree fittings on the fuel selector valve.  I have decided to try using a 1/4" NPT Male to -6 AN Male fitting in the valve body (SUM-220647); and attaching to that a short-coupled 90 degree swivel fitting: EAR-809006ERL (-6 AN female to -6 AN hose end), from Summit Racing.  

I don't think this arrangement will fit in the console as I have it presently drilled. I will probably have to make a sub-panel for the selector valve on the center console and orient the two inlet openings upward at 45 degree angles to get it to fit. That will make the faceplate not "square with the world", but I think I can live with that.

I probably won't get the fittings until late next week, but I'll let you know how it goes.

Jay

"Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona(at)suddenlink.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

Jay, let me know what you come up with because I'm about a month away from the exact same problem.

Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:

> I am working with the kit-supplied fuel selector valve (601XL, dual sticks). It is located on my center console, about the middle. It has three 1/4"NPT ports (female threads), one on the side(input), one on top and one on the back face (output). Because of the width of the console and other constraints, I must use 90 degree fittings on the side and top ports.  When I screw the fittings in, finger tight, they are facing the wrong way.  Swivel-type fittings would require first installing a 1/4"NPT to -6AN adapter fitting, then the swivel fittings.  The console is not wide enough for that. I have searched Summit Racing Equipment's extensive fittings catalog and have not found anything that would work. At this point, I can't mount the selector valve remotely.

> 

> I am at a loss, or maybe just stuck on stupid. Any suggestions?

> 

> Jay in Dallas

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: Fuel Fittings

You probably don't want to spend this much money. But you can by an Andair

valve direct from them with either the right-angle banjo bolt or AN6

fittings. Pictures attached. The BF250 (NPT-Banjo-AN6.jpg) might fit your

existing valve - they are "only" $37 each:



"This Banjo fitting can be rotated through 360 degrees and then locked off

by tightening the Stainless Steel shaft. Viton bonded washers compress down

to seal the fitting. The Fitting is machined with a 1/4" NPT thread on the

grey part, and an AN-6 with 37.5 degree flare on the blue part."



www.andair.co.uk



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601zv(at)ritternet.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: Fuel Fittings

Andair has 90-degree fittings that replace the straight fittings that come 

on the valve. I was considering those until I decided to order their 

extension parts to move the valve body down on the floor.



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s_thatcher(at)bellsouth.n
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: Fuel Fittings

Jay and Gig,



I'm also just finishing that part of the assembly and am using the Zenith

supplied barbs for the rubber hoses. I will probebly use Earl's to go

through the firewall but that fitting is straight out rather than at 90

degrees.



I placed the 90 degree barbs in finger tight using a thread solution of

Saf-T-Loc Hydraulic Sealant (Brown) that seals the threads after about an

hour. That way I didn't need to have the fitting very tight at all, although

there was still some resistence (it felt like it would still turn about 60

degrees further by hand).  This suggestion was made by a Tech Counselor so I

hope I have done the right thing.



Scott Thatcher

601XL with Corvair Power

90% complete

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