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g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

Bob

  

 The  diagram that Ivor has sent you is the correct one.[b].[/b]

  

 Some of  the wires (which you are unlikely to get wrong as they are already connected)  are not marked on the diagram.  For information here are the rest.  T[b]hese are shown on the wiring harness  diagram.  I have a very tatty paper copy but have never found a  PDF.[/b]

  

 12,24,17 and 36 are the serial connection  (for setting the throttle etc)

  

 7, 13 and 19 also go to the turbo servo  but are not shown on the diagram

  

 3 and 4 are the air box temperature  sensor

  

 15 and 27 are the taco  connections

  

 5 and 22 are the card air box  solenoid

  

 8,20 and 32 go to the throttle position  sensor

  

  

  

Ian Rickard  #505 G-IANI XS Trigear

Europa Club Mods Rep  (Trigear)

e-mail mods(at)europaclub.org.uk  

   or direct  g-iani(at)ntlworld.com 

  

  

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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

Hi! Ian  

Thanks for helping with my frustration!   Your numbers help close the circle somewhat ….further brain scans likely !  

It would have helped if Skydrive had put their photocopy of a picture of connecting the mags to the panel anywhere but stapled to the back of the oil priming documents !  

Regards  

Bob H   

     

Robt.C.Harrison  

  

   

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n100rh(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

Robert,

Thanks for your timely question on the mag wires. However, I am still 

very confused, I can't figure where the mag wires are, or where they 

come out of the A & B boxes. The Rotax diagram shows shielded leads 

running from the boxes and to the mag switches. I am really feeling like 

a retard!



Ralph



R.C.Harrison wrote:

[quote]

 Hi! Ian



 Thanks for helping with my frustration! Your numbers help close the 

 circle somewhat ….further brain scans likely !



 It would have helped if Skydrive had put their photocopy of a picture 

 of connecting the mags to the panel anywhere but stapled to the back 

 of the oil priming documents !



 Regards



 Bob H



 Robt.C.Harrison



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josok-e(at)ukolo.fi
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

Hi All,

The mag wires are not there, not anymore on newer engines.

Take a close look at the connectors of the ignition units, there is one  

wire missing on both, that's were the tiny spade connector goes with the  

shielded wire you supply. And don't forget the tiny rubber grommet, that  

should keep the water out of that connector.



Regards,



Jos Okhuijsen



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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

Hi! Ralph  

You aren't retarded .....well any more than myself !  

Wow! a couple of days ago I was "pigged off" and now find myself helping others in distress ! thanks for the opportunity.  

I don't study modern circuit diagrams very amiably, or sit and read instructions on a VDU screen either. However at the expense of asking I'm pleased to say the answer is simple ...Rotax don't do shielded mag. kill wires and switches in spite of very adequately providing all the other wires, shielded in the case of alternator wires (yellow) and posh black nylon sleeve round them too. Thanks to my pal Ivor Phillips I can advise that you need to provide your own shielded wire and switches for the job.  

In my case no big deal since my Jabiru wires are adequate to swap straight over. All you need to know further is the location of the engine end and where to fix them..... On the top of the engine you will find a couple of cigarette size black boxes and some electrical connect plugs. These are A and B shown on the circuit drawing. In the corner each of the connectors you will find what appears to be one location without a wire in seemingly blanked off. If you carefully (using a sewing needle) prick into and prise out the black blanking material you will find it to be a rubber grommet (be careful since to " have them go walk about you won't find them again !)  

Now in your kit you will find either a couple of bullet connectors (older engine packs) or a pair of bright silver slim spade connectors these connectors need crimping to the wires which you have provided along with the grommets so that when inserted back in the connector holes they will seal against ingress of water.  

Ian Rickard kindly furnished me with the "key" numbers of the remaining wires which I'm sure is useful to know, I've copied them below for your info.  

Regards  

Bob Harrison G-PTAG with thanks to all who messaged to help on my cry of frustration !  

   

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

Ralph K. Hallett III a écrit :

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 <n100rh(at)sbcglobal.net>



 Robert,

 Thanks for your timely question on the mag wires. However, I am still 

 very confused, I can't figure where the mag wires are, or where they 

 come out of the A & B boxes. The Rotax diagram shows shielded leads 

 running from the boxes and to the mag switches.


	


Ralph and all,



Rotax has changed his mag connectors.

I just crafted a quick web page on the subject at



http://contrails.free.fr/engine_rotax_mag_connect_en.php



Maybe this could be of some help.

Best regards,

-- 

Gilles

http://contrails.free.fr

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n100rh(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

OMG! Now how was I supposed to know that????

Oh, I feel like I just got off the short bus  Thanks much,

Ralph



Jos Okhuijsen wrote:

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 Hi All,

 The mag wires are not there, not anymore on newer engines.

 Take a close look at the connectors of the ignition units, there is 

 one wire missing on both, that's were the tiny spade connector goes 

 with the shielded wire you supply. And don't forget the tiny rubber 

 grommet, that should keep the water out of that connector.



 Regards,



 Jos Okhuijsen



 --workshopcam http://www.okhuijsen.org/plane

 http://www.europaowners.org/kit600

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n100rh(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: Rotax Circuit Wiring

Thanks again to all, great help! Maybe, some day I can return the 

favor... let's hope so.

Ralph



Jos Okhuijsen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi All,

 The mag wires are not there, not anymore on newer engines.

 Take a close look at the connectors of the ignition units, there is 

 one wire missing on both, that's were the tiny spade connector goes 

 with the shielded wire you supply. And don't forget the tiny rubber 

 grommet, that should keep the water out of that connector.



 Regards,



 Jos Okhuijsen



 --workshopcam http://www.okhuijsen.org/plane

 http://www.europaowners.org/kit600

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