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dean.psiropoulos(at)veriz
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 Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: SL-30 discontinued.....NOT |
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Sorry about the false alarm folks, I meant to say that Garmin has
discontinued the SL-70 transponder, NOT the SL-30 Nav/Com. The SL-30 is a
real winner and Garmin knows that so they're going to keep it around for a
while (at least until all the VORs get decommissioned then it'll only be
good for com).
Dean
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From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos(at)verizon.net>
Subject: SL-30 power
Ya Dennis:
................Oh well, I just learned that Garmin has also discontinued
the SL-30 (they discontinued the GX-65 a couple years ago) so there won't be
many people running this gauntlet from now on.
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mlas(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: SL-30 discontinued.....NOT |
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Dean,
The SL-70 has been long discontinued. A final note to you is that the
last medical that you pass will have dust on it before the final ILS
system is decommissioned. So I think the Nav portion of you Nav/Com
will get use well into the future. Besides, other then approaches who
still continues to use VOR for enroute navigation today other then
backup?
Mike Larkin
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ornerycuss2001(at)yahoo.c
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: SL-30 discontinued.....NOT |
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Lest the FAA get the wrong impression from your question, many of us still use VORs for enroute navigation. At least, in the IFR system where a VFR GPS can't legally be used for navigation.
Greg
Mike <mlas(at)cox.net> wrote:[quote] --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mike"
Dean,
The SL-70 has been long discontinued. A final note to you is that the
last medical that you pass will have dust on it before the final ILS
system is decommissioned. So I think the Nav portion of you Nav/Com
will get use well into the future. Besides, other then approaches who
still continues to use VOR for enroute navigation today other then
backup?
Mike Larkin
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mlas(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: SL-30 discontinued.....NOT |
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Greg,
First, most of us that fly real IFR more then once a year have IFR GPS systems. Second, if you plan the trip with VOR and have a VFR GPS you can actually fly real IFR with that GPS receiver as long as you verify your position. You can verify you position using a verity of methods: VOR, NDB, INS, IRS, TACAN, IFR LORAN, RADAR (ATC) or plain old reference to the ground if you are in VMC. The key issue is planning not actual. So Greg I would say that you need to brush up on your knowledge of IFR flying vs. IFR planning.
Mike
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ornerycuss2001(at)yahoo.c
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: SL-30 discontinued.....NOT |
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Apparently I have not been communicating well in any of my emails this week!
While you are correct that a VFR GPS can be used for situational awareness during IFR navigation. You properly point out that there are lots of methods to verify the VFR GPS is giving accurate information. But I'll stand by my statement that VFR GPS cannot be used as the primary means of IFR navigation.
My only reason for my first response was that there are still plenty of us using VOR for primary IFR navigation, not just approaches, and I'd like to go on using that method for quite some time to avoid a costly upgrade to my panel.
Greg
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First, most of us that fly real IFR more then once a year have IFR GPS systems. Second, if you plan the trip with VOR and have a VFR GPS you can actually fly real IFR with that GPS receiver as long as you verify your position. You can verify you position using a verity of methods: VOR, NDB, INS, IRS, TACAN, IFR LORAN, RADAR (ATC) or plain old reference to the ground if you are in VMC. The key issue is planning not actual. So Greg I would say that you need to brush up on your knowledge of IFR flying vs. IFR planning.
Mike
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