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Mark Phillips in TN

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Location: Columbia, TN

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: Prop control label

For those out there with blue knobs-

  

 What is an appropriate label on the panel (Not on the knob itself) for the prop control- two come to mind "PROP- pull coarse" and "RPM- pull low".

  

 What're y'all using?

  

 Thanks!

 Mark



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gyoung

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: Prop control label

My RV used RPM PUSH  INCREASE and my Navion uses PROPELLER PUSH INCR. Seems the other controls all  use "Push" type labels too.

  

 

 

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Greg Young - Houston (DWH)

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   For those out there with blue knobs-

    

   What is an appropriate label on the panel (Not on the knob itself) for    the prop control- two come to mind "PROP- pull coarse" and "RPM- pull    low".

    

   What're y'all using?

    

   Thanks!

   Mark

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Bruce(at)glasair.org
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: Prop control label

Just why would anyone want to label the TPM  controls. FAR's suggets color and shape constraints, not labeling. I fought a  battle with my AB-DAR on this issue. He could site no FAR that required  labeling, just that 'we've always done it'. I have no labels on mine. If you  don't know how to use the controls, you shouldn't be flying the  airplane.

  

  

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: Prop control label

Color and shape constraints are for identification  purposes by touch,  but not the operational aspect itself.   Labeling tells you what you can do with any given control once it is identified  in regards to its purpose. 

  

 Example: I observed an  Experimenter friend of mine that got a bit exited before his first engine start  of a Rotary conversion, and when it fired it went immediately to full throttle,  because he was a bit excited/stressed at that instant.  Labeling the  throttle "may" have prevented that, but I don't know if he had a written  checklist for this first engine start, ...the mental checklist failed  obviously!

  

 And yes, the pilot should know how to properly use  the controls of the craft (s)he commands, but then add some adverse facts  to it, and Mr. Murphy, the Lawyer may kick in...

  

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cjensen(at)dts9000.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: Prop control label

Konrad,

  

 If someone unfamilair with an  aircraft starts it without first doing a fairly thorough familiarization,  the throttle should be labeled "By the time you take the time to read this, you  will be S.O.L."

  

 Labels are for a person familiarizing  himself with a craft, not for identifying critical flight controls while burning  gas.

  

 Chuck Jensen 

  

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Subject: Re: Prop control  label

 Color and shape constraints are for identification  purposes by touch,  but not the operational aspect itself.   Labeling tells you what you can do with any given control once it is identified  in regards to its purpose. 

  

 Example: I observed an  Experimenter friend of mine that got a bit exited before his first engine start  of a Rotary conversion, and when it fired it went immediately to full throttle,  because he was a bit excited/stressed at that instant.  Labeling the  throttle "may" have prevented that, but I don't know if he had a written  checklist for this first engine start, ...the mental checklist failed  obviously!

  

 And yes, the pilot should know how to properly use  the controls of the craft (s)he commands, but then add some adverse facts  to it, and Mr. Murphy, the Lawyer may kick in...

  

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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: Prop control label

naw ... they are to satisfy the FAA / insurance companies. and make us  safer...

  

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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: Prop control label

Hi Chuck, 

 I fully agree with you, but my friend made a  mistake due to stress (while still on the ground & before even burning gas).  He was very familiar with the airplane as he built the whole engine conversation  and knew very well were the throttle position should have been for  starting.  Please re-read my post once more,  because I did NEVER said that labeling is very helpful for inflight  emergencies, which do come up on occasion...

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 Konrad

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Mark Phillips in TN

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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: Prop control label

In a message dated 6/23/2007 12:17:17 PM Central Daylight Time, Bruce(at)glasair.org writes:

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		  If you don't know how to use the controls, you shouldn't be flying the airplane. 	


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 Thanks for answering my question, Bruce...

  

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