jonsmitheuropa(at)tiscali
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 Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: Re. 180 degree turn back |
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Hi! Just to clarify a couple of points since my previous posting:
Re. Messsage from Hans Danielsen – many thanks for your input re. climb out technique. I absolutely agree with you about flaps up and speed etc! I was trying to set an example of a worse case but entirely possible scenario of an engine failure at (say) 500 feet, low speed, nose high, flaps down – a very poor position to be in from which recovery would be demanding. I should have emphasised that my own take off technique is not this! I’m a “flaps up ASAP” person! If the engine does fail I certainly don’t want them down if it can be avoided. Hold the plane down a bit, get some speed, get the flaps up. Near the ground, speed is good! How low to put them up is entirely up to you and what you feel comfortable with – just don’t “scrape the belly”! I retract them slowly and progressively – no noticable sink then! Even with a good climb out technique – still don’t be tempted to turn back! You are simply in a much better position to land safely ahead somewhere!
Re. Message from Rick Stockton – I was interested to read your posting – you have obviously thought about this a great deal. I have no doubt that you are highly experienced and practised at this manoeuvre and that you and all your highly trained students will have a slightly better chance than many on the roulette wheel of turning back and may get away with it. My concern is though – what about the rest of us. I feel people will read this and think –sounds good – that’s me sorted for EFATO’s. I really worry that ordinary people (like me and most of us) would be killed attempting this so I urge again – LAND AHEAD – IT’S ALWAYS SAFER THAT WAY. I suspect that many, equally experienced and competent pilots in the past (including tragically one very recently) have probably had their own theories that they can turn back, but when faced with the situation for real have become victims to what is historically a highly dangerous manoeuvre. I will pray for your continued success.
Just a final word about EFATO’s I’m not a great lover of that period between lift off and when I know I can safely glide to a landing site/ strip/ GOOD field. For me it’s a bit like flying over water! Fortunately the engine doesn’t know it’s there and this period needn’t last too long. I always try to minimise this time by not climbing straight ahead but turning if necessary, soon after take off and positioning so that reasonably soon I can reach a safe landing area by gliding. (As an example, when I take off from my home strip on one end, a 45 degree right turn and within seconds I’m within gliding range of a disused military field with good runways – that’s nice!) If I have an engine failure after take off at any time up to that point when I decide I can glide safely (without dangerous manoeuvring!) to a landing site, I just accept that I will have to make the best of a landing somewhere in front of me. Simple!
That’s it from me now on the subject. Stay safe!
Regards, Jon
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