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ricklach

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Location: Kernville, Calif.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: 701 Upholstery Problem

The upholstery in my 701 has a problem. The seat cushion and seat back are held in with 1 1/2 inch Velcro strips. The Velcro is sewn on to the back of the seat cushion and seat back, no problem there. But the Velcro on the aircraft is only “GLUED” to the aluminum. So every time I want to take the seats out half of the Velcro that is glued to the aluminum pulls loose from the aluminum. Is there a better way to PERMINENTLY attach the Velcro to the aluminum?  Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.



Rick

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agustafson(at)chartermi.n
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: 701 Upholstery Problem

Can you put some rivets in it? Especially at the ends.

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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: 701 Upholstery Problem

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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: 701 Upholstery Problem

In a message dated 6/26/2007 6:33:02 PM Central Daylight Time, rick(at)ravengear.us writes:

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 Perhaps a couple of wire staples in each piece would do it.

 Make them out of house wire, like number 12. Just bend them into staples the width that would fit, drill holes to fit, bend the legs into place to secure the Velcro to the aluminum.

  

 Staples like this are removable, strong and have a low profile with no sharp edges showing. The aluminum wire might be strong enough for this use.

  

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hrs1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: 701 Upholstery Problem

Why not rivet it in place with a small washer under the rivet head? Just 

enough to hold it in place. Robert Schoenberger 701



ricklach wrote:

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 The upholstery in my 701 has a problem. The seat cushion and seat back are held in with 1 1/2 inch Velcro strips. The Velcro is sewn on to the back of the seat cushion and seat back, no problem there. But the Velcro on the aircraft is only “GLUED” to the aluminum. So every time I want to take the seats out half of the Velcro that is glued to the aluminum pulls loose from the aluminum. Is there a better way to PERMINENTLY attach the Velcro to the aluminum?  Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.



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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: 701 Upholstery Problem

What I've done to deal with the problem is a combination approach. I "dirty up" the sticky part of the Velcro by contact with my (clean) hands first to remove excess goo. Then I brush on Weldwood contact adhesive to the Velcro and the airframe part it will mount to. When that dries, I stick them together. That provides a pretty good bond by itself. Then I drill through the Velcro and the airframe part to place two A4 rivets at opposite ends of the Velcro. So far so good.



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 The upholstery in my 701 has a problem. The seat cushion and seat back are held in with 1 1/2 inch Velcro strips. The Velcro is sewn on to the back of the seat cushion and seat back, no problem there. But the Velcro on the aircraft is only âGLUEDâ to the aluminum. So every time I want to take the seats out half of the Velcro that is glued to the aluminum pulls loose from the aluminum. Is there a better way to PERMINENTLY attach the Velcro to the aluminum?  Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

 

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BobTezyk

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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: 701 Upholstery Problem

Rick,



When I worked at Learjet 27 years ago, we used Velcro to tack down the carpet's in the cabin.  the Velcro had a contact adhesive pre-applied to the back side.  Instead of using that adhesive, we applied a coat of a commercial contact cement from a company called Kingston.  The contact cement was applied to the aluminum floor and the loop side, allowed to dry, then pressed together.  The same was done to the carpet back and the hook side - no sewing.  



I still have some carpet that I made up that way 26 years ago and it is still holding strong.  With today's advances in adhesives, some of the commercial products should do the job for you.  Unfortunately, I have not kept up with the latest technology so I can't tell you what to use.  I am sure that someone on this site will have that info.

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dave.thompson(at)verizon.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: 701 Upholstery Problem

I had the same problem with the seats in a friend’s boat years ago. We simply put a small screw into the wooden seatback at each end of the Velcro. Couldn’t two rivets do the same thing?  

   

Dave Thompson  

Westminster, CA  

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