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skwgn(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

Hi,



I'm new to this list.



Anyone have experience with replacing the Kitfox Model 3/4 landing gear with

the one piece aluminum Grove gear?



Thanks,

Bob

kitfoxmike

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Posts: 373

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

YUP

skwgn(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

Any detailed photos?  Any CG or GW change?  



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Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

On Jun 26, 2007, at 6:35 PM, Bob Waldron wrote:

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		   Anyone have experience with replacing the Kitfox Model 3/4 landing 

 gear with

 the one piece aluminum Grove gear?


	


Many of us have the Grove gear, Bob. I have a model 3 with the tube 

gear but if I had to change, the Grove would be on my wish list. It is 

stronger, wider thus less prone to ground loop, as I have been told.



Cheers,

Michel Verheughe

Norway

Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200

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john(at)leptron.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

Bob,

I can send you detailed pictures. I changed mine before flight so I do not

know the cg changes. I can tell you they are about 20 lb gain, but worth it.



John Oakley



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kitfoxmike

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Posts: 373

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

lets see here, any cg change, yup.  better weigh it afterwards.  I rebuilt the whole plane a couple years back.  started out as a long wing, weighed in at 600 lbs.  short wing, new horizontal with ribs and an electric trim installed, new fabric with med, paint, and of course the Grove gear.  When done, it weighed in at 650.  flies great, never would know the extra weight was there.  It is nice on handleing on the ground, a little shake in the wheels if I let it role to fast on take off.  I need to switch my tires, I see cord now, been 4 years 5000 landings or close to that and about 700 hrs.  I guess it is time.  THe only issue was the front mounts, used for floats were just a little out, but easy to fix.  Put the brackets on first and then stuff the gear on after the brackets are fitted.  piece of cake.  What happens with the grove gear is that you end up with a little more forward on the wheels and you get a longer front to back so it' not so touchy on ground looping.  I haven't even come close to that problem at any time.  I did find that it took a little getting use to for doing the quick 180 turn, left is easy, a little more difficult to the right, but I think that's more the matco brakes.

eskflyer

Joined: 24 May 2007
Posts: 44
Location: AK

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

In my Opinion ther is not one darn thing wrong with the tube bungee gear except for the people who do not understand them , and just want to get wider heavier gear and are not so quick on there feet to control the airplane . I have gone to the AVID wide gear bungee because of a gear failure on the mod 2 and Kitfox said they did not have the jig to build me more gear . Would I myself change to the heavy Grove gear . Nope not in this lifetime . Way to much money for a hunk of weight . 



Ok hammer me  slow feet people 

JK

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john(at)leptron.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

John Perry,

I have tried but can't for the life of me find a listing for Northair

floats, is there really a float of this name?



John Oakley

Looking for new floats (amphibs)



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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

There are a bunch of clips up on U-Tube put there  by Dave Fisher.... Haven't seen him around since the signature thingy.... All on  either floats or tube gear.  Some great ones on the kingfox tires.   Hard to tell if he has a plane or a motocross bike!



 

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kitfoxmike

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Posts: 373

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

Yup, this thread started a bungee war.  Just like tail wheel vs. nose , primer versus not.  Jeesh.  Lets just get past it and give him what he wants  for information.

skwgn(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

I really looked at the gear brackets today and realize it's pretty straight

forward.  I thought you had to get under the floorboard but it just bolts on

the bottom.  The Grove brackets don't quite fit between the front float

mount and the front gear mount.  A little bit on the grinder will fix that.

I will need to reroute the brake lines as this gear has been drilled out for

the brake fittings.



-Bob

Kitfox III

N1060U



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kitfoxmike

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Posts: 373

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

once you get past the front mounts it's a plug and play.

kitfoxmike

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Posts: 373

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

Bob,

I thought I would add that if you have the plastic line for the brakes, there is enough, provided you have the gundrilled Grove.  Meaning you just cut the line where you need to and connect, just go down to the auto parts store and grab some new inserts for the end of the hose.

skwgn(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4

I removed the original landing gear yesterday and kept the plastic brake

line intact hoping to reuse.



-Bob



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