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What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

Does anyone know what the differences between a Kitfox model IV 1050 and model 1200? I have found some vague remarks, but nothing definite.

I have a Model 1050 and wonder what it would take to make it a 1200 series ?

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

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I know the wings of a 1200 have an I beam in the wing spars that the 1050 does not. Other then that I am not sure what else changed\


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Does anyone know what the differences between a Kitfox model IV 1050 and model 1200? I have found some vague remarks, but nothing definite.



I have a Model 1050 and wonder what it would take to make it a 1200 series ?



Any help or ideas would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

My model IV-1050 has I-beams in the wing spars. I know because I built the wings. My serial # was 1461. I don't know if earlier model IV-1050s were without them or not, but I think they all had them.

Clem
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

Hi Kirk,

my model II, has an I-beam in the wing spars. The builder of my Fox told
me that the wings on this plane was stronger than "normal", but he could
not remember the details involved.

However, I thought that I-beam was present in all Kitfox wing spares.
Well, learning something new every day..

Just go here to find the difference between the various models, this
direct link go to the model IV difference description at Kitfox Aircraft
LLC:

http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Model%20IV.htm

Hope this help.

Torgeir.
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:06:23 +0200, kirk hull <kirkhull(at)kc.rr.com> wrote:

Quote:

I know the wings of a 1200 have an I beam in the wing spars that the 1050
does not. Other then that I am not sure what else changed\
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Subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050
and
Model 1200 Kitfox ?
Does anyone know what the differences between a Kitfox model IV 1050 and
model 1200? I have found some vague remarks, but nothing definite.
I have a Model 1050 and wonder what it would take to make it a 1200
series ?
Any help or ideas would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

I was aware at one time that there was a reinforcing bar available that went
from side to side between the strut mounts. I'm not sure of it's original
purpose but it seemed like a good idea to me. if there is additional
strength to be had, I'd like to have it.

Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

Dave,

I once talked to a person close to Skystar before the bankruptcy and he told
me that increasing the gross wt on the 1050 to 1200 amounted to the thicker
walled lift struts and a rod - threaded both ends of the appropriate length,
I can't recall the diameter - inserted in drilled holes in the lift strut
fuselage attachment points running inside the carry through tube. Washers
and nuts on both ends. The carry through on top at the spar attachment
points are in compression. The 4130 rod at the lift strut attachment added
strength in tension. This info came late in the game within a year or two
of the end of business for Skystar. I have discussed this on several
occasions with the source.

Keep in mind that this is third hand info and maybe not complete.

Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp
1998 870 hrs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

Never heard of that one, the rod I saw photos of was fitted onto the lower
tabs of the strut mounts that are not used except for floats. Not sure if it
was ever a factory accessory.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: What are the differences between a Model IV 1050 and Model 1 Reply with quote

Again for the record... There are several changes that were completed from a
Model IV-1050 to a Model IV-1200... You don't want to hear it but... bottom
line.. One cannot increase the Model IV gross weight from 1050 to 1200.
There was a letter that mentioned a procedure for operating a Model IV 1050
at a 1200 gross for FLOAT OPERATIONS only. Once the aircraft was put back
on the gear the gross was 1050. That procedure was written by someone at
Denny Aerocraft and was never officially adopted or to the best of our
knowledge tested.

The I-beam insert has always been a part of the wing assembly although the
first Model 1's I believe used something different then the aluminum I-beam.
At one time the spar was extruded with the I-beam.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
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