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howado
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Several builders have written about using plastic tubes in the wings to carry wiring. Most have referred to Van's as the source of the tubes. I have looked at the Van's website and cannit fibd such tubes listed. Will someone who knows how to do rhis please email me with the part numbers of how to find something on Van's website?
Thanks.
Howard Carter
howado1(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Ladies,
the nylon tubes everyone is refering to is flexible black plastic tubing you can get at the good old local Home Depot or home SHop. I would say 50% of the 601s being built in the south east use the light wieght black tubing, just tie wrap it to the frame on the inside, good to go.
Hate to tell ya, no parts number, just eye ball it.
Juan
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Sorry to have no hints on navigating the Van's site, but if you can find a
search funtion, try this info I have from a recent invoice:
DUCT NT5/8-25 25' NYLON 5/8 TUBE $8.30
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dfmoeller
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: Re: nylon tube conduit |
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Here is the link. BUT, beware, this stuff is sewer pipe sized and they only offer the one size. If you do a search of this list for "conduit", you'll find several better alternatives.
Doug
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1183217856-2-420&browse=electrical
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burbby
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 34 Location: Millsap, TX
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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I found the Nylon tubing at the local hardware store. It came in 3 ft pieces and in various lengths.
Gary
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Go to the Link below, scroll down a bit and click on the electrical link. Then scroll down to Nylon Wiring Conduit,
and there it is. http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi
This should take you directly to the product, maybe, there is no picture for it.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1183218123-284-141&browse=electrical&product=wiring-conduit
Here is what it looks like, I got mine from the Harbor Freight in Oklahoma City in 3 different sizes. It came in 15 ft packs and was pretty cheap.
http://www.701builder.com/electrical10.htm/
Brian
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Michael Valentine
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 108
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Robin has it right - DUCT NT5/8-25. Just type "nylon" into the search box and it will come up first. I did find similar stuff at hardware stores, but it is all SPLIT! I could not find it anywhere uncut. I would suggest just getting it from Vans.
Michael in NH
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On 6/30/07, Robin Bellach <601zv(at)ritternet.com (601zv(at)ritternet.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" < 601zv(at)ritternet.com (601zv(at)ritternet.com)>
Sorry to have no hints on navigating the Van's site, but if you can find a
search funtion, try this info I have from a recent invoice:
DUCT NT5/8-25 25' NYLON 5/8 TUBE $8.30
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rickpitcher
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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I doubt that you'd easily find anything as suitable, convenient, and light,
as the Van's tubing at 25 feet for $9.30. 25 feet seems approriate for two
wings, and out of curiosity I just weighed my 25' roll at just 10.7 oz. ID
is 5/8", but with the convoluted ribs the OD is about 3/4". And for routing
purposes it's quite flexible, probably much more so than any non-convoluted
type, such that it will accomodate a bend of only about one-inch radius..
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Hey Michael,
I'm just curious. What's wrong with split?
Carroll
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Michael Valentine
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 108
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Good question - nothing probably. I just didn't want wires coming out. It would also be harder to thread wires and I'm not sure if it would stay as firmly in the grommets I fed it through, but those are just guesses. As someone else posted, 25' from Vans for $9 isn't bad.
Michael in NH
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I'm just curious. What's wrong with split?
Carroll
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dave.thompson(at)verizon. Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: nylon tube conduit |
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Quote: | Hey Michael, > I'm just curious. What's wrong with split? > Carroll Guys, |
I’m not building yet so this only a guess. It seems to me that the main reason to use conduit in a wing is to be able to remove, replace or add wires after skin closure. If I were not planning to perform adds, moves or changes to a wire run, I would simply bundle the wires along the properly supported run using either plastic ty-wraps or lacing cord, of course following the guidelines of AC43.13.1B.
If the conduit is the corrugated split loom also used in autos (or similar), one cannot pull out existing wires and re-pull others. The split in the loom will open and make pulling wire a bear to do.
Now, a question you A&P’s out there:
AC43.13.1B, Chapter 11, Aircraft electrical systems, Section 8, Wiring Installation Inspection requirements, Item K states:
“K. Insulating tubing must be kept at a minimum and must be used to protect wire and cable from abrasion, chafing, exposure to fluid and other conditions which could affect the cable installation. However, the use of insulating tubing for support of wires and cables in lieu of stand-offs is prohibited.”
Does that mean that running a tube the length of a wing to support say, wing tip lighting is prohibited? Or does it mean that the conduit must be properly supported along its run.
Please archive your answer
Dave Thompson
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