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John Vormbaum
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 Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: Craziest Cessna crash |
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Runaway trim is pretty scary. The Monday morning quarterbacking session yielded a solid response; instead of pulling breakers, shutting off the master evidently disables all trim function and the airplane can still be flown. I really wish it had worked out for that medical team, it's a double tragedy to lose a team of lifesavers like that...
/John
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: Craziest Cessna crash |
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How would you know you would remember shutting off the master when there are only a few seconds left? Training for such an emergency in a simulator would be a good starting point, I guess.
You still wouldn’t know, would you?
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Runaway trim is pretty scary. The Monday morning quarterbacking session yielded a solid response; instead of pulling breakers, shutting off the master evidently disables all trim function and the airplane can still be flown. I really wish it had worked out for that medical team, it's a double tragedy to lose a team of lifesavers like that...
/John
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:28 AM
Subject: Craziest Cessna crash
This is the craziest I’ve ever seen.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/903-full.html#195584
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dongirod
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: Craziest Cessna crash |
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All the commercial aircraft I have flown that had an electric trim also had a 'brake', pull the yoke in the opposite direction of the run away trim and the brake engages, then turn off the electric trim. A maneuver that you get every simulator session. But I never had one in real life, which is good.
Don
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John Vormbaum
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: Craziest Cessna crash |
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I don't know that I would remember. That's a failure mode that's hard to survive under any circumstances, having an airplane you're suddenly unable to control....
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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: Craziest Cessna crash |
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Standard procedure training event at a part 121 air carrier.... they throw a runaway at you (almost always a nose down event in close proximity to the ground) just to see how quickly you can grab the master disconnect....
If these guys were hunting for circuit breakers- and they'd been professionally trained (which I'm assuming is the case) then maybe the problem wasn't so simple as all of us quarter backs would hope....
Rob
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:27 AM
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How would you know you would remember shutting off the master when there are only a few seconds left? Training for such an emergency in a simulator would be a good starting point, I guess.
You still wouldn’t know, would you?
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Vormbaum
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:19 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Craziest Cessna crash
Runaway trim is pretty scary. The Monday morning quarterbacking session yielded a solid response; instead of pulling breakers, shutting off the master evidently disables all trim function and the airplane can still be flown. I really wish it had worked out for that medical team, it's a double tragedy to lose a team of lifesavers like that...
/John
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