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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: EFIS Units

Hey Group,



    Are there any of you flying with any of the EFIS units?   I have two 

Dynon D10A units.  One will be installed in my Kolb MkIII, and the other 

will be as a back-up to my Blue Mountain Avionics EFISOne in my GlaStar.



   Up to this point my only experience is playing with them on the kitchen 

table.  They sure do look cool, and show virtually instanteous response to 

movement.



   For the Kolb, I'm going to have the Dynon D10A EFIS, built-in Garmin 296 

GPS, Icom A200 NavCom, and King transponder.  For my engine "steam gages", 

they are in an overhead panel, you just look up to see them.   (overhead 

panel includes gages, ignition switch, clock, intercom and light, and 

switches to various things)



    I was curious about anyone else's experience with any EFIS units, 'cause 

you don't seem to hear much from this group on any of the avionics in their 

planes.



                                             Mike in SW Utah



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jim

Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Posts: 107
Location: N. Idaho

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: EFIS Units

I have a Dynon EFIS D100 (with OAT probe) in my Aerocomp Experimental.  I

bought it in December 2006.  I had some trouble with it and sent it back

to Dynon.  They replaced its main board and it's been GREAT since then.  I

really like the TAS & wind readout and the HSI/GPS display.  It is also

comforting to have 2+ hours of backup battery in case of electrical

failure.  I am looking forward to the improvements with the [free] new

firmware due out any day.  Definitely get the brighter screen option

($200).



Ground calibration of the magnetic flux detector is critical to accurate

heading and wind info (this is easily done). But it's great never having

to synch a DG.  It is interfaced to my Garmin GPSmap 196 portable with a

single wire.



Jim

N. Idaho




Hey Group,



    Are there any of you flying with any of the EFIS units?   I have two

Dynon D10A units.  One will be installed in my Kolb MkIII, and the other

will be as a back-up to my Blue Mountain Avionics EFISOne in my GlaStar.



   Up to this point my only experience is playing with them on the kitchen

table.  They sure do look cool, and show virtually instanteous response to

movement.



   For the Kolb, I'm going to have the Dynon D10A EFIS, built-in Garmin

296

GPS, Icom A200 NavCom, and King transponder.  For my engine "steam gages",

they are in an overhead panel, you just look up to see them.   (overhead

panel includes gages, ignition switch, clock, intercom and light, and

switches to various things)



    I was curious about anyone else's experience with any EFIS units,

'cause

you don't seem to hear much from this group on any of the avionics in

their

planes.



                                             Mike in SW Utah

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Jim
N. Idaho

JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: Re: EFIS Units

 	  mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote: 	
		  



For the Kolb, I'm going to have the Dynon D10A EFIS, built-in Garmin 296 

GPS, Icom A200 NavCom, and King transponder.  For my engine "steam gages", 

they are in an overhead panel, you just look up to see them.   (overhead 

panel includes gages, ignition switch, clock, intercom and light, and 

switches to various things)

                                             Mike in SW Utah



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That sounds like a nice setup, just about all the stuff I would want     With all that modern avionics, why are you still using steam guages ???   The EIS unit is GREAT for engine monitoring.  Its more accurate and you dont have to stare at it while flying, the flashing red light with something goes out of limits is better than constantly having to monitor guages.



Mike

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Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S

mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: EFIS Units

Hi Mike/All Others,

  I agree with you re: the steam gages idea.  I would be better off with an 

EIS electronic system, but as I said, I started the Kolb back in 2000/2001 

and didn't even consider the electronic route, plus I didn't have very much 

money back then.  No real intentions of changing at this point.

  I got myself in a situation where I couldn't work on the plane for a few 

years.    Then, a year or two ago I made a ton of money, and invested a 

small fortune in my GlaStar ($90,000 or so).  Kolb was still on the back 

burner.  GlaStar moved to the head of the line.    Then, another direction 

change has now caused me to want to sell my Cessna 172, and focus back on 

the Kolb.  Plus, wife says three planes is too many.

  In the last few days I have virtually finished building my shop and pool 

in my backyard.  I have been "stealing" time here and there, and working on 

the Kolb.  Actually, before I began working on the Kolb, I had to repair the 

rudder on the GlaStar!!!   During my move to SW Utah in December, my glass 

top picnic table blew off my truck on the highway, flew up in the air and 

wiped out the top of the rudder as it then exploded into a trillion pieces 

on the highway.   Out of a sense of remorse, I felt the need to repair the 

rudder before I did anything else, either on the GlaStar OR Kolb.

   Repaired the rudder!  Damn nice job, if I say so myself.  Then onto Kolb. 

  I'm having to pay the price for not keeping the Kolb inside all the time.  

( mostly kept covered under tarp)

   My Kolb MkIII was at the point where all I needed to do was cover the 

tail feathers, and wings.

Practically ALL else was finished.  Motor/prop was running.  Instruments 

mounted (almost all of them).  Pretty much fabric and paint was all that's 

left to do.   Now I have to back waaaay!! up.   It'll take me 3 months just 

to get back to square one.

   But the REALLY GOOD part is:  I have began working on the Kolb again.  

And in my book, that's always a good thing!!    And this time I plan on 

doing it like they rebuilt Steve Austin in "The SiX Million Dollar Man".  

"We can build it BETTER!  STRONGER!  FASTER!

                                            Best regards,   Mike in SW Utah

PS.  I do have the EIS for my GlaStar.   I have a Electronics International  

MVP 50.  $5000 unit.  Can't afford to spend money like that on ALL the 

planes!!

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		  From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>

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To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: EFIS Units

Date: Mon,  9 Jul 2007 10:51:49 -0700

mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote:

 >

 >

 > For the Kolb, I'm going to have the Dynon D10A EFIS, built-in Garmin 296

 > GPS, Icom A200 NavCom, and King transponder.  For my engine "steam 

gages",

 > they are in an overhead panel, you just look up to see them.   (overhead

 > panel includes gages, ignition switch, clock, intercom and light, and

 > switches to various things)

 >

 >

 >                                              Mike in SW Utah

 >

 > _________________________________________________________________

 > http://newlivehotmail.com

That sounds like a nice setup, just about all the stuff I would want     

With all that modern avionics, why are you still using steam guages ???   

The EIS unit is GREAT for engine monitoring.  Its more accurate and you 

dont have to stare at it while flying, the flashing red light with 

something goes out of limits is better than constantly having to monitor 

guages.

Mike

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&quot;NO FEAR&quot; -  If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you 

could have !!!

Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S

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JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: EFIS Units

You can get the EIS for like 700 bucks, I forget the exact price, but its not much.  Probably slightly more then the steam guages it replaces.  You can see mine in the picture of my MKIII panel attached to this post.   This thing is really great.   With my luck, I would not be looking at the guages the minute the oil pressure went down, or when the EGT's started to go up.  With a bright red flashing light in your face, you know when something goes wrong right away.



Mike

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JetPilot

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Posts: 1246

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: EFIS Units

Here is the picture of my panel......

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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: EFIS Units

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 You can get the EIS for like 700 bucks, I forget the exact price, but its 

 not much.  Probably slightly more then the steam guages it replaces.


	




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You can get the EIS, with the remote wiring for around $400 bucks if you buy 

it direct from the factory. The gal that answers the phone knows more about 

the thing than any one I have ever talked to.

Larry C

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      Grand Rapids Technologies, Inc.

      3133 Madison ave

      Wyoming, MI 49548

      616 245-7700

      FAX 616 245-7707

      email : sales(at)grtavionics.com

lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: EFIS Units

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Paul Petty

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 226
Location: Mississippi

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: Re: EFIS Units

Mike B.



Where were you when you took that panel pic? It looks like you were airborn. But 22mph indicated?   



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Ms Dixie
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jstewart(at)inebraska.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: EFIS Units

As a longtime GRT dealer with several customers on this list, I can

get you a slightly better price on an EIS.



J.D. Stewart

UltraFun AirSports, LLC

http://www.ultrafunairsports.com

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 >

 > You can get the EIS for like 700 bucks, I forget the exact 

 price, but 

 > its not much.  Probably slightly more then the steam guages 

 it replaces.

 

 

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 You can get the EIS, with the remote wiring for around $400 

 bucks if you buy it direct from the factory. The gal that 

 answers the phone knows more about the thing than any one I 

 have ever talked to.

 Larry C

 do not archive

       Grand Rapids Technologies, Inc.

       3133 Madison ave

       Wyoming, MI 49548

       616 245-7700

       FAX 616 245-7707

       email : sales(at)grtavionics.com

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