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RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: new topic

OK, so the other guy got some blood boiling. I am  just a reader on this 

list. As I said earlier I'm a long way from being able to  get the type rating. I 

do enjoy reading about the experiences you guys have with  the -29. 

    Does anyone want to share with a "new" private  pilot what it's like to 

fly the -29? What's your typical mission? What altitude  do you mostly fly? 

Someone told me the ceiling of the -29 was somewhere near  25,000. Is this 

accurate?

Boyce

Ernie

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 513

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:51 am Post subject: new topic

Ceiling is 39k but you dont have enough gas to get there. Real easy to fly,

underpowered on takeoff but level off and pickup speed and then you can

climb like a bat out of hell. Rolls are easy, loops are real big, never

worry about Vne, just point her down and go like all get out.



I typically go up to around 6000 ft and just tool around, typical flight is

about 45 minutes.



Ernie

On 2/7/06, RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com <RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com> wrote:

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 OK, so the other guy got some blood boiling. I am  just a reader on this

 list. As I said earlier I'm a long way from being able to  get the type

 rating. I

 do enjoy reading about the experiences you guys have with  the -29.

    Does anyone want to share with a "new" private  pilot what it's like to

 fly the -29? What's your typical mission? What altitude  do you mostly

 fly?

 Someone told me the ceiling of the -29 was somewhere near  25,000. Is this

 accurate?

 Boyce

ainut(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: new topic

And I'll add that I'll chip in on the fuel (50%) if you'll let me come 

along and play, too!



David M.



RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 OK, so the other guy got some blood boiling. I am  just a reader on this 

 list. As I said earlier I'm a long way from being able to  get the type rating. I 

 do enjoy reading about the experiences you guys have with  the -29. 

     Does anyone want to share with a "new" private  pilot what it's like to 

 fly the -29? What's your typical mission? What altitude  do you mostly fly? 

 Someone told me the ceiling of the -29 was somewhere near  25,000. Is this 

 accurate?

 Boyce

SD737(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject: new topic

Come to Reno and I'll put you in the front seat and let you fly mine.

 

As far as the ceiling goes, it's a BIG struggle to get above FL180 (18,000  

feet) and with the new RVSM requirements (reduced vertical separation margin)  

you cannot go above FL280 twenty eight thousand, but you're never going to get 

a  L-29 that high.

Plan on 10,000 feet to 17,500 feet typically.

RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: new topic

The fact that you're not likely to be above 18,000 is one reason I think  the 

29 would be ideal for me: First, I want a warbird eventually. Second, it  

will by necessity be an entry level type bird. Third, I'm really not into a lot  

of hot dog flying, so it doesn't have to climb at 40,000 ft/min. Lastly, at 

the  moment, I'm VFR only. I may never pursue the IFR rating. Above 18,000 and 

you  have to file IFR right? So, based on this I think the 29 would be a fun 

VFR  warbird to fly to local events, and proficiency Sunday afternoon flights. 

I've  gotten as far as I have in life by dreaming...no need to stop now  right?

colyergreg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: new topic

all in all the L-29 is a great airplane to fly around.  Stable and easy to fly.  It's a great bargin for a warbird and attention getter when you go out saturday for your $500 burger or breakfast..Don't stop dreaming and you'll get there.  got to have goals..Buy the L-29 now if you can dig up the cash while they are cheap!!! it would be good advice. 

 

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ainut(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: new topic

How would you guys compare the L-29 to the Mig 21 (?) that can do Mach 

2?  I live about 350 miles from the Gulf of Mexico so maybe could fly 

down there at subsonic, get 12 miles offshore then hit it hard and bust 

Mach!  I would enjoy that immensely at least once in my lifetime.  They 

are even cheaper than L-29's, too, at least as of a couple of years ago, 

for the 2 seat trainer.



David M.

RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 The fact that you're not likely to be above 18,000 is one reason I think  the 

 29 would be ideal for me: First, I want a warbird eventually. Second, it  

 will by necessity be an entry level type bird. Third, I'm really not into a lot  

 of hot dog flying, so it doesn't have to climb at 40,000 ft/min. Lastly, at 

 the  moment, I'm VFR only. I may never pursue the IFR rating. Above 18,000 and 

 you  have to file IFR right? So, based on this I think the 29 would be a fun 

 VFR  warbird to fly to local events, and proficiency Sunday afternoon flights. 

 I've  gotten as far as I have in life by dreaming...no need to stop now  right?

Bcolombo(at)twcny.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: new topic

The 21 is a real fighter, the 29 and 39, iskra, casa, etc. are trainers. Not 

even in the same league. I love my 29. forgiving and safe. The 21 is not a 

Sunday toy like the trainers. I believe the 2 seat 21 holds less than 30 min 

of fuel total. This aircraft will kill you fast if you are not a fighter 

pilot.



As for the 29 and there being a soft market, fuel cost is the only thing 

driving the prices down, you could not buy a reasonable Cherokee 180 for the 

price they are going for right now. You do the math, what would you rather 

have. Anyone who questions us on why we would own/fly them has never been in 

a jet.

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czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: new topic

Best rate is 190. Give it a try. But anything above the trees at warp speed 

is a waste. Stay low and see more!



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Colyergreg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: new topic

that's the way I like to fly too!!! about 80% power and down at tree top  

level.  Fuel burn is good, and still quite low considering and doing about  

220-230 knots. I have flown for 1:20 like this with a take off in the middle  (for 

breakfast stop) and only burned 180 gallons.  without the take off It  would 

have been maybe 150-160 easy.....

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