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lwinger



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Ways to track shared tools Reply with quote

Building an airplane is all about the tools we get to collect in the process. What hurts is having to buy a metric widget to ream one hole or a pneumatic whatsit to drive a solid rivet.

From time to time I see emails from list members who are willing to loan their specialty tools for the cost of postage. That's the spirit I really appreciate about this list. The problem is that those emails are buried in archives all over the Matronics list.

I have two questions:

1) How can we bring together information in one location regarding all the "loaner" tools that are available, including their present location and projected availability? I know that a "sticky" on the Matronics Zenith List homepage could work, but there are probably other more efficient or elegant solutions.

2) What tools are floating out there right now that are available?

I'll start the ball rolling by offering my recently purchased 100 degree countersink / microstop combination and 6.4mm chucking reamer to the next builder tackling the 601XL bellcrank aileron (or comparable part on the 701/801/etc.)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Ways to track shared tools Reply with quote

I love the fact that this is such a great community or people that they are willing to share expensive tools as well as experience and advice. What did we all do before the Internet came along?

This sounds like a pretty simple web-app that could be hosted just about anywhere. I am not a professional web-developer (Windows C++ apps are more my thing) but I do know my way around PHP scripting and simple databases. I have a domain registered that already has all this stuff (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl, PHP, etc.) already running for my own play apps and self-education. (OK, yes, I know, get a life, and I am ready for the geek jokes.)

I would be happy to start collecting ideas and requirements and playing around with pulling something together. I imagine that it would be something like a cross between a virtual library and a blog. Here's a start:
  • Anyone could add a new tool to the list of available tools, potentially with pictures, descriptions, etc.
  • People could then queue up and add their names (and e-mail addresses?) to a list of who's next on the borrow list. (Should the owner of the tool have the ability to approve the borrowers?)
  • I would like to add a way for 'borrowers' to add comments, suggestions, tips, maybe even pictures to a tool page (perhaps in Blog form?) as time goes on
  • Each tool would have to have a "who has it", "who owns it" as well as the list of future borrowers
  • Should we track the list of past borrowers?
We would want to think a little about how much personal information we want to store and expose in the app. Certainly e-mail addresses would be OK - nothing I could possibly do would make any e-mail addresses more 'exposed' then they are on the yahoo group. I think that it wouldn't be a bad idea that we have some sense of approved membership just to keep non-list members from posting to the app. (I wouldn't expect that this app would be the target of a whole lot of spamming and hacking, but just the same, it pays to maintain some level of control.) I think it is also important to keep this as a tracking utility, not a controlling utility. The owner of the tool should always maintain control of the tool.

Anyway, if there is enough interest in this idea then let me know and feel free to start flinging ideas around. Oh, and let the geek jokes begin...

Dave
On 7/17/07, lwinger <larrywinger(at)gmail.com (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" <larrywinger(at)gmail.com (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)>

Building an airplane is all about the tools we get to collect in the process. What hurts is having to buy a metric widget to ream one hole or a pneumatic whatsit to drive a solid rivet.

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From time to time I see emails from list members who are willing to loan their specialty tools for the cost of postage. That's the spirit I really appreciate about this list. The problem is that those emails are buried in archives all over the Matronics list.

I have two questions:

1) How can we bring together information in one location regarding all the "loaner" tools that are available, including their present location and projected availability? I know that a "sticky" on the Matronics Zenith List homepage could work, but there are probably other more efficient or elegant solutions.

2) What tools are floating out there right now that are available?

I'll start the ball rolling by offering my recently purchased 100 degree countersink / microstop combination and 6.4mm chucking reamer to the next builder tackling the 601XL bellcrank aileron (or comparable part on the 701/801/etc.)

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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
601XL/Corvair from scratch
Control surfaces and wing spars complete


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Ways to track shared tools Reply with quote

Hey Dave,

No geek jokes from me! This is precisely the kind of thing I was hoping would emerge.

Before you go to the trouble of writing an app, you might want to wait a few days to see if there is already an existing solution that we've all missed. If not, I personally hope you will go for it. Personally, I don't have any problem with the past, present and future borrowers being listed with their email addresses. Your idea of a blog to accompany the tool would help us pass on tips and techniques. That would be very helpful.

Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans-building 601XL/Corvair
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