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 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Flying characteristics- Kolb Firestar vs. Quicksilver Sprin |
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I also owned a kxp but with a 447. what would you rather cut a peace of cake with? a meat tenderizing hammer or a knife? I really liked the kxp over every Quicksilver I ever flew mal
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R. Hankins
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Flying characteristics- Kolb Firestar vs. Quicksilver Sp |
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Mal,
Not sure what you meant by the cake thing, but I like my KXP better than any ultralight I've flown. I have about two minutes of RV-4 stick time, and I have to admit it was more fun than my KXP.
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lucien
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: Re: Flying characteristics- Kolb Firestar vs. Quicksilver Sp |
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My first UL was a quicksilver MX super, an older design which was the aerobatic version in the MX series (though I trained in a 2-place sprint).
But I pretty much agree with the comparisons made by the rest of the guys. The really significant differences flying-wise are the tailwheel aspect and the lack of dihedral in the Kolb over the stock sprint.
If you have no tailwheel time in anything, you have to get used to that (just holding the nosewheel off the ground in your trike gear does NOT prepare you for tailwheel as some guys might think  ). Fortunately, the Kolb is the best tailwheel trainer in existence - besides being pretty docile, the prop is up on the wing in the back and out of the way of any possible prop strikes. What more could you ask for in a tailwheel plane?
The other thing I remember having to get used to was the lack of roll coupling with the rudder as someone else mentioned. I've got over 100 hours in my FS II and sometimes still don't keep my turns completely coordinated. The lack of dihedral though has so many other advantages, though, I'd recommend removing it even on the quicksilver (which mark smith can help with).
Otherwise, the transition should be pretty easy. First time I went around the patch in my FS II I remember it was very similar to flying my quick regarding inertia and etc....
The other advantage of the Kolb is ease of maintenance. It's strut-braced and uses the Al tube for the fuselage, a simpler design than the tube structure of the quick. All I've had to do on my FS II so far is replace the rudder and elevator cables (old ones had 500 hours on them and were fraying at pully block under the seat) apart from putting the new engine on it.
PS. speaking of those cables, if you ever do need to replace them do NOT use stainless steel cable - you'll start getting broken strands at the pully block in about 20 hours (you should see the logbook for my plane with my attempt at this). Call Travis and get the galvanized cable from Kolb.... I still don't know why this happens, I suspect the small size of the pullies breaks the stainless though the angle doesn't exceed the suggestion in AC 43.13. In any case, the galvanized cures that problem.....
LS
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: Flying characteristics- Kolb Firestar vs. Quicksilver Sprin |
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anything I should
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Dana:
A couple things:
1-Don't forget to fly the airplane.
2-Ultrastars do not fly below the stall speed, even though they will
fly in a mush at a rapid rate of descent.
3-Gravity is not prejudice.
Most folks that have trouble with an Ultrastar usually do so on
landing. They are not accustomed to sitting out in the open, in front
of the wing, get the airplane in a below stall speed mush, and spready
the gear. Have personally witnessed this process several times over
the years.
Take care and have a fun flight.
john h
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