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pdrzymala(at)nycap.rr.com
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: for sale

my zenith 601xl is for sale.power 912s, 100 hp pdrzymala(at)nycap.rr.com

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jim(at)pellien.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: for sale

Peter,



Can your airplane be grandfathered in as an ELSA with Commercial training

privileges thru 2010?



Jim



Jim Pellien

Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes

The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com

www.MASPL.com

703-313-4818

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allenricks(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: for sale

Hi Jim,



I think the only aircraft that qualify for "grandfather" status under the

E-LSA rules are fat

ultralights.  In the world of experimental aircraft, I think only those

aircraft with serial numbers

after the first "certified" S-LSA aircraft or E-LSA aircraft of a particular

make qualify for

E-LSA status.



Thus I believe only Zenith aircraft with a serial number higher than the

first S-LSA or E-LSA produced of

the zenith make.  Even then I believe that it has to be produced using an

"approved" set of plans

and kit that meet the "industry standard" and constructed exactly as the

plan set states.  Unfortunately

I don't think any such plans or kit exist for the Zenith line yet.



I could be completely wrong though.  I've read the LSA rules a huge number

of times and don't understand

them all.  My understanding is that as of today there are S-LSA aircraft,

production aircraft that meet

the light sport standard, experimental aircraft that meet the light sport

standard, and "fat" ultralights

that meet the standard for transition to E-lsa.  I don't believe that any

aircraft have been as yet certified

as E-LSA, though many may qualify in the future if their makers decide to do

so.



The other way you can get an E-lsa is to buy a S-LSA and transition it with

the FAA to experimental status, but

I would think this would de-value the aircraft significantly.



I have seen very specific statements from the EAA that say once an aircraft

is certified as an experimental, it

CANNOT be re-certified as an E-LSA, so that route would not work



If your understanding is different please let me know for a supposed

"simple" rule, the light sport stuff is

mind bendingly complex.



Allen Ricks

Beaverton, OR.



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