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riddon(at)sent.com
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 Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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There has been a suggestion that ‘someone’ should collate the findings and results from doing mod 73.
I have also noted the way that the visitors to Oshkosh have added their names to a round robin list. Maybe we could do something similar on the forum for the mod.
As an example or to make a start
Name Country Airplane reg. Progress on mod 73 Disbonding of TP6 pip pins used Any problems found
Richard Iddon UK G-RIXS Completed None found 2 in. Nothing major
If anyone has any better idea, please feel free to add to the above, modify or offer suggestions. Once most members have done the mod the results can be emailed to the PFA although I guess that they will be monitoring this site.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Richard -excellent idea - I have added an extra column in case this is an issue.
Steve Pitt
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jron.jones(at)tiscali.co.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />Good idea, Richard!
Name Country Airplane reg. Type Progress on mod 73 Disbonding of TP6 pip pins used Any problems found
Richard Iddon UK G-RIXS Completed None found 2 in. Nothing major
Steve Pitt UK G-SMDH Tri gear Completed None found 2" Nothing major
Ron Jones UK G-RJWX Mono Completed None found Original
None
If anyone has any better idea, please feel free to add to the above, modify or offer suggestions. Once most members have done the mod the results can be emailed to the PFA although I guess that they will be monitoring this site.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Tim Ward
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Fendalton,
CHRISTCHURCH 8052
Ph :64 03 3515166
Mob: 021 0640221
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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)
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riddon(at)sent.com
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Name Country Airplane reg. Type Progress on mod 73 Disbonding of TP6 pip pins used Any problems found
Richard Iddon UK G-RIXS Tri gear Completed None found 2 in. Nothing major
Steve Pitt UK G-SMDH Tri gear Completed None found 2" Nothing major
Ron Jones UK G-RJWX Mono Completed None found Original
Tim Ward NZ ZK-TIM Mono Not Done None Found Original Very slight movement in starboard TP12. Present on installing (1998)- no worse.
Danny Shepherd UK G-CERI tri gear completed none found 2"
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pjeffers(at)talktalk.net
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon
Sent: 20 July 2007 08:35
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Mod 73 results
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Name Country Airplane reg. Type Progress on mod 73 Disbonding of TP6 pip pins used Any problems found
Richard Iddon UK G-RIXS Tri gear Completed None found 2 in. Nothing major
Steve Pitt UK G-SMDH Tri gear Completed None found 2" Nothing major
Ron Jones UK G-RJWX Mono Completed None found Original
Tim Ward NZ ZK-TIM Mono Not Done None Found Original Very slight movement in starboard TP12. Present on installing (1998)- no worse.
Danny Shepherd UK G-CERI tri gear completed none found 2"
Pete Jeffers UK G-BVIZ Tri Gear completed None original well within limits
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dg.watts(at)talktalk.net
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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3 more added to the list. These last 3 on the list have all been completed by me over a 3 day period. 2 Half days and 1 day of about 2 hours.
Dave Watts
G-BXDY Classic Monowheel 1250 hours
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nigel_graham(at)btconnect
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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It would be useful to know the total A/C hours and possibly the typical landig surface (grass/paved) to establish a correlation with failures?
Nigel
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nwcmc(at)tiscali.co.uk
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Having done Mod 73 I have the following comments to offer:
- As peel ply can suck resin from the cloth I find it is important to make sure it is well wetted out when laying it in position. Otherwise a partially dry lay is discovered after peeling off after cure.
- As a result of the above I found that resin had puddle slightly in the bottom of the lay up. This has added a small amount to the final thickness which has ensured that I need longer pip pins.
- By chance I have a length of aluminium tube which is a perfect sliding fit to avoid having to do the lay up on the aircraft. Even a patch of the thinnest packing tape almost gets scraped from the tube as it is inserted. With a little grease it did finally make it through to the lay up area. This tube was long enough to do both tailplanes together and is available for loan.
Name Country Airplane reg. Type Progress on mod 73 Disbonding of TP6 pip pins used Any problems found
Richard Iddon UK G-RIXS Tri gear Completed None found 2 in. Nothing major
Steve Pitt UK G-SMDH Tri gear Completed None found 2" Nothing major
Ron Jones UK G-RJWX Mono Completed None found Original
Tim Ward NZ ZK-TIM Mono Not Done None Found Original Very slight movement in starboard TP12. Present on installing (1998)- no worse
Danny Shepherd UK G-CERI Tri gear Completed None found 2"
Graham Drake UK G-CCOV Mono Completed None Found 2"
Sarah Attubato UK G-BXDP Mono Completed None Found 2" These are new replacement tailplanes that had already been built
David Watts UK G-BXDY Mono Completed None found 2"
Nigel Charles UK G-MIME Mono Completed None found 2” Nothing major.
Regards
Nigel Charles
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riddon(at)sent.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:30 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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OK. I have transferred the results so far to a spreadsheet which I have copied and pasted below. I am not an expert so hope it works. Please fill in the blanks. And send it back to the forum. If anyone has been missed off I apologise but it is getting a little complicated.
It would be useful to know the total A/C hours and possibly the typical landig surface (grass/paved) to establish a correlation with failures?
Nigel
Name
Country
Reg
Type
Hours
Landing sfc.
Mod 73 progress
Disbonding of TP6
Pip Pins
Problems found
Richard Iddon
UK
G-RIXS
Tri gear
365
Tarmac
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
Steve Pitt
UK
G-SMDH
Tri gear
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
Ron Jones
UK
G-RJWX
Mono
Completed
None found
Original
Tim Ward
NZ
ZK-TIM
Mono
Not done
None found
Original
Very slight movement in starboard TP12. Present on installing (1998)- no worse
Danny Shepherd
UK
G-CERI
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
Pete Jeffers
UK
G-BVIZ
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
well within limits
Brian Davies
UK
G-DDBD
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
none
Graham Drake
UK
G-CCOV
Mono
Completed
None found
1.9in.
Sarah Attubato
UK
G-BXDP
Mono
Completed
None found
2in.
These are new replacement tailplanes that had already been built
David Watts
UK
G-BXDY
Mono
Completed
None found
2in.
Nigel Charles
UK
G-MIME
Mono
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
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jron.jones(at)tiscali.co.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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so hope it works. Please fill in the blanks. And send it back to the forum. If anyone has been missed off I apologise but it is getting a little complicated. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
It would be useful to know the total A/C hours and possibly the typical landig surface (grass/paved) to establish a correlation with failures?
Nigel
Name
Country
Reg
Type
Hours
Landing sfc.
Mod 73 progress
Disbonding of TP6
Pip Pins
Problems found
Richard Iddon
<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />UK
G-RIXS
Tri gear
365
Tarmac
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
Steve Pitt
UK
G-SMDH
Tri gear
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
Ron Jones
UK
G-RJWX
Mono
320
Both
Completed
None found
Original
None
Tim Ward
NZ
ZK-TIM
Mono
Not done
None found
Original
Very slight movement in starboard TP12. Present on installing (1998)- no worse
Danny Shepherd
UK
G-CERI
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
Pete Jeffers
UK
G-BVIZ
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
well within limits
Brian Davies
UK
G-DDBD
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
none
Graham Drake
UK
G-CCOV
Mono
Completed
None found
1.9in.
Sarah Attubato
UK
G-BXDP
Mono
Completed
None found
2in.
These are new replacement tailplanes that had already been built
David Watts
UK
G-BXDY
Mono
Completed
None found
2in.
Nigel Charles
UK
G-MIME
Mono
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Brian Davies
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Hmm..
Something has got scambled in the move! My aircraft is the only one with 1.9 in pip pins but that info seems to have moved to Graham Drake. It probably does not matter too much because the important info at the moment (early days) is that no TP6 bushes have disbonded.
Brian Davies
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Pitt
Sent: 20 July 2007 17:04
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Subject: Fw: Mod 73 results
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dg.watts(at)talktalk.net
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Filled in 3 aircraft
Dave Watts
G-BXDY / G-CCOV / G-BWDP
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: Mod 73 results |
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Just finished ours G-OMIK
Mike
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so hope it works. Please fill in the blanks. And send it back to the forum. If anyone has been missed off I apologise but it is getting a little complicated.
It would be useful to know the total A/C hours and possibly the typical landig surface (grass/paved) to establish a correlation with failures?
Nigel
Name
Country
Reg
Type
Hours
Landing sfc.
Mod 73 progress
Disbonding of TP6
Pip Pins
Problems found
Richard Iddon
UK
G-RIXS
Tri gear
365
Tarmac
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
Steve Pitt
UK
G-SMDH
Tri gear
46
Grass
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
Ron Jones
UK
G-RJWX
Mono
320
Both
Completed
None found
Original
None
Tim Ward
NZ
ZK-TIM
Mono
Not done
None found
Original
Very slight movement in starboard TP12. Present on installing (1998)- no worse
Danny Shepherd
UK
G-CERI
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
Pete Jeffers
UK
G-BVIZ
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
well within limits
Brian Davies
UK
G-DDBD
Tri Gear
Completed
None found
2in.
none
Graham Drake
UK
G-CCOV
Mono
60
Mostly Hard
Completed
None found
1.9in.
Sarah Attubato
UK
G-BWDP
Mono
N/A
N/A
Completed
None found
2in.
These are new replacement tailplanes that had already been built
David Watts
UK
G-BXDY
Mono
1250
Mostly Grass
Completed
None found
2in.
Nigel Charles
UK
G-MIME
Mono
Completed
None found
2in.
nothing major
Mike Clews
UK
G-OMIK
Mono
500
Grass
Completed
None found
Original
nothing major
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