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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Rivnut question Reply with quote

I've seen rivnuts in 6-32 and they look awfully big to sneak into the rib
capstrip. Has anyone got pictures of this installation?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Rivnut question Reply with quote

Dave,

Maybe when saying rivnuts, some mean to say nut plates. That is the way I
will go when I do my next replacement. I find rivnuts a bit more challenging
than nutplates and thickness of the material matters. I don't know how a
rivnut would work with a backing and a 1/8" capstrip.

If anyone has actually used rivnuts, how did you do it.

Lowell
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Rivnut question Reply with quote

Lowell,
I used ruvnuts on my bubble door and my windshield, they sale keyed and
unkeyed, there is a tool that you insert into the drilled hole and pull the
leaver much like a rivet gun. It cuts the keyway for the rivnut. You then
install the rivnut and use the squeeze tool, again much like a rivet gun and
it pulls and wrinkles the rivnut to the needed thickness. If I remember
right the rivnut come in varying thickness again like rivets.

My windshield and several other attachments are done using rivnuts.. I will
continue using them in other projects.

John Oakley

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Rivnut question Reply with quote

For the windshield I used #6-32 SS panhead screws with nylock nuts. I can't
remember the part number but you can get the nuts that are about half the
thickness of regular nylock nuts. No washers necessary. Very simple
install and no need to buy any special tools (rivnut installer).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Rivnut question Reply with quote

John:

I think on GA aircraft riv nuts are allowed in basically non-structural applications. This however is not GA but we want out planes to be safe. I expect a riv nut will be safe in any application where you would use a blind rivet. It's a great idea for installing glass.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Rivnut question Reply with quote

I used #8 rivnuts to attach the wingtips. A dab of the rib to spar epoxy mix under the rim of the manufacturer's head to prevent twisting. An aluminum washer under the shop head, slightly flattened on the side next to the rib flange, to provide a larger rivet to wood contact surface. Has been fine for the last 14 years. Dragged a wing tip once and the rivnuts held up just fine, and made removal of the tip for repair a simple task.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Rivnut question Reply with quote

Hi Folks,

Lowell is very right (as usual), rivenuts is really not meant for
"primary" structure attachment (ref. standard practice), -nutplate is the
answer -and maybe the kind with floating nut.

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:31:50 +0200, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net>
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Dave,

Maybe when saying rivnuts, some mean to say nut plates. That is the way
I will go when I do my next replacement. I find rivnuts a bit more
challenging than nutplates and thickness of the material matters. I
don't know how a rivnut would work with a backing and a 1/8" capstrip.

If anyone has actually used rivnuts, how did you do it.

Lowell


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