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Greetings,
I am planning a trip from Apalachicola FL to Fairfax CA later this month and am looking for tips as to routing and or stopovers. I'd rather not contend with any more mountain flying than necessary since I am a flatlander!
Also, is anyone familar with either Gnoss Field (DVO Novato), or San Rafael (CA35)? San Rafale would be closer and more convenient to Fairfax, but it is private. I'll probably be staying in the area for about a week.
Tips, comments, insight, advice all welcome.
Thanks in advance
David Wentzell N233DW Port St. Joe, FL
RV6, 200+ Hrs
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1. 05:50 AM - Re: Need source for rivet (Tim Lewis)
2. 07:46 AM - Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or Light Weight (Paul Besing)
3. 08:11 AM - Something We Really Need (Louis Willig)
4. 12:21 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (David Leonard)
5. 12:46 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (Bayne)
6. 04:42 PM - FW: RV4 Project for sale, including engine, tools, instruments (john(at)jallenplace.com)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 05:50:27 AM PST US
From: Tim Lewis
Subject: Re: Need source for rivet
Depending on the application, a 1/4" round head steel screw and nyloc
nut might be an easier solution. The screw will be stronger than an
aluminum rivet, and it won't require a compatible rivet set like the
AN470AD8 will.
--
Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
Travis Hamblen wrote:
| Quote: |
I am looking for 10 either AN470AD8 or MS20470AD8 rivets (two
different part numbers for the same rivet). I realize this rivet is
REALLY wide for our typical application, but I have a specific need
and just can not find a source for the rivet! The length is
unimportant, as I can cut them down to the size I need. If you have
any information as to where I can get these PLEASE e-mail me! Did I
mention that once I have these bad boys squeezed into the holes they
will be filling, the plane will be signed off and first flight will be
made!! By the way, ACS and the usual sources stop at AD6 rivets!
Travis
TravisHamblen(at)gmail.com
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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 07:46:36 AM PST US
From: Paul Besing
Subject: Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or Light Weight
I would personally never use a canopy cover for extended periods of time. Over
night maybe, as long as you aren't in a dusty environment. Any dirt under the
cover and when the wind blows, and all of a sudden you have microscratches all
over your canopy. I would consider an internal cover of some sort, not an
external one.
Paul Besing
Ernie & Margo wrote:
Would someone with experience in using both the heavy canopy cover and the
light cover like to comment on their performance.
I am considering the Canopy Cover RV-9/9A (continuous duty) at $335 and the
Canopy Cover LW-6EXT (Light Weight}at $185. Cost is not the issue. My
impression is that the the heay cover is designed to protect parked
airplanes and the light weight models are designed for travel. I plan to do
a lot of cross-country flying 12 months per year. This includes exposure to
snow and ice, desert sun, etc., a couple of weeks at a time. The light
weight cover may not measure up to the heavy duty use, but is the
"continuous duty" cover too heavy and too bulky for travelling - perhaps
50% of all flight hours. Will the Light Weight travel cover self-destruct
with winter trips in the north-east and Canada.
I would appreciate any experience or insight. Ernest Kells - RV/9A (testing
electricals / preparing for the final inspecton)
---------------------------------
Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 08:11:01 AM PST US
From: Louis Willig
Subject: Something We Really Need
Hi gang,
Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of
hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the
Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others
have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any
one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a
temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK,
do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is
acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and
moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect
weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only
marginal for long term outside storage of an RV.
What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort
of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed
easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance
companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other
aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create
the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a
fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down
Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable.
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 12:21:57 PM PST US
From: "David Leonard"
Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
I'm with you, we really do need something (not really an entirely new idea
I'm sure). One problem is that my airport will not allow any kind of a tarp
or awning. Whatever it is would have to be entirely supported by the
aircraft itself...
I have been thinking about some sort of tarp that will cover the canopy area
supported by clamps on the wings or fuselage. But a reasonable design
escapes me.
--
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On 8/5/07, Louis Willig wrote:
| Quote: |
Hi gang,
Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of
hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the
Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others
have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any
one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a
temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK,
do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is
acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and
moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect
weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only
marginal for long term outside storage of an RV.
What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort
of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed
easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance
companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other
aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create
the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a
fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down
Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable.
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 12:46:14 PM PST US
From: "Bayne"
Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
The Plane Pocket may be a suitable alternative.
http://www.planepocket.com/
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Gary.A.Sobek
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 217
Location: SoCAL USA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips |
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Lowest altitude route would be to follow the Interstate toward Southern
California through northern New Mexico and Northern Arizona. When you get
to California, I would navigate south of Twenty Nine Palms (TNP) Restricted
(R-2501E & W) toward Bakersfield remaining south of the Edwards Restricted
(R-2515) area then GPS direct to your destination. (TNP-PMD-EHF or KBFL)
Can do this route without going over 8500.
KBGD (Borger, TX) has two cars, $15 / night hangar, several hotels and
reasonable fuel price.
KSJN (St. John, AZ) also is LOW price fuel but NO nearby hotel that I know
of.
L35 (Big Bear, CA) is in the mountains (6,752 MSL) of SoCAL but typically
has cheap fuel. ($3.89 on 30 July) It is nice to stop for gas at higher
airports to save fuel and time climbing back to altitude.
I use http://www.airnav.com/plan/fuel/ to plan low cost fuel stops.
GPS direct would take you north of Las Vegas NV and put you over some
mountains getting into California. (11,000 peak near Mono Lake)
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,050 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: d wntzl <dwntzl(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:07:02 -0700 (PDT)
Greetings,
I am planning a trip from Apalachicola FL to Fairfax CA later this
month and am looking for tips as to routing and or stopovers. I'd rather not
contend with any more mountain flying than necessary since I am a
flatlander!
Also, is anyone familar with either Gnoss Field (DVO Novato), or San
Rafael (CA35)? San Rafale would be closer and more convenient to Fairfax,
but it is private. I'll probably be staying in the area for about a week.
Tips, comments, insight, advice all welcome.
Thanks in advance
David Wentzell N233DW Port St. Joe, FL
RV6, 200+ Hrs
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Deems Davis
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips |
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Dave, I used to work across the street from San Rafeal and flew to
work once or twice.The runway is very narrow, and usually in poor
repair. I moved from the area 4-5 years ago, the residents have been
trying to get it closed. At the time there wasn't any provision for
transient parking, there were no services and no fuel. Gnoss (DVO) is
about 8-9 mile north (freeway) and has all of the services you would
need/expect. The approach to the No. runway is over some hills, and
there is a large radio tower in the vicinity, so use caution if
visibility is limited. while you're out there, be sure to make the
'loop' i.e. take off from Gnoss/San Rafael, go northwest towards
Bodega Bay, then follow the coast line south either reaching out to
Point Reyes, or following Tomales bay (San Andreas Fault) and continue
down the coast to the Golden Gate cross over the Golden Gate view San
Francisco off your left, Alcatraz below and then turn north east and
head up towards Sausalito and San Rafael. If the weather is good , it's
some of the best scenery in the country. I used to take out of towners
for the same trip when we lived there.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
d wntzl wrote:
[quote] Greetings,
I am planning a trip from Apalachicola FL to Fairfax CA later this
month and am looking for tips as to routing and or stopovers. I'd
rather not contend with any more mountain flying than necessary since
I am a flatlander!
Also, is anyone familar with either Gnoss Field (DVO Novato), or
San Rafael (CA35)? San Rafale would be closer and more convenient to
Fairfax, but it is private. I'll probably be staying in the area for
about a week.
Tips, comments, insight, advice all welcome.
Thanks in advance
David Wentzell N233DW Port St. Joe, FL
RV6, 200+ Hrs
*/RV-List Digest Server <rv-list(at)matronics.com>/* wrote:
*
==================================================
Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
==================================================
Today's complete RV-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest
formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
version
of the RV-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-08-05&Archive=RV
Text Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-08-05&Archive=RV
================================================
EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
================================================
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RV-List Digest Archive
---
Total Messages Posted Sun 08/05/07: 6
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 05:50 AM - Re: Need source for rivet (Tim Lewis)
2. 07:46 AM - Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or
Light Weight (Paul Besing)
3. 08:11 AM - Something We Really Need (Louis Willig)
4. 12:21 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (David Leonard)
5. 12:46 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (Bayne)
6. 04:42 PM - FW: RV4 Project for sale, including engine, tools,
instruments (john(at)jallenplace.com)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:50:27 AM PST US
From: Tim Lewis
Subject: Re: Need source for rivet
Depending on the application, a 1/4" round head steel screw and nyloc
nut might be an easier solution. The screw will be stronger than an
aluminum rivet, and it won't require a compatible rivet set like the
AN470AD8 will.
--
Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
Travis Hamblen wrote:
>
> I am looking for 10 either AN470AD8 or MS20470AD8 rivets (two
> different part numbers for the same rivet). I realize this rivet is
> REALLY wide for our typical application, but I have a specific need
> and just can not find a source for the rivet! The length is
> unimportant, as I can cut them down to the size I need. If you have
> any information as to where I can get these PLEASE e-mail me! Did I
> mention that once I have these bad boys squeezed into the holes
they
> will be filling, the plane will be signed off and first flight
will be
> made!! By the way, ACS and the usual sources stop at AD6 rivets!
>
> Travis
> TravisHamblen(at)gmail.com
>
>
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 07:46:36 AM PST US
From: Paul Besing
Subject: Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or
Light Weight
I would personally never use a canopy cover for extended periods
of time. Over
night maybe, as long as you aren't in a dusty environment. Any
dirt under the
cover and when the wind blows, and all of a sudden you have
microscratches all
over your canopy. I would consider an internal cover of some sort,
not an
external one.
Paul Besing
Ernie & Margo wrote:
Would someone with experience in using both the heavy canopy cover
and the
light cover like to comment on their performance.
I am considering the Canopy Cover RV-9/9A (continuous duty) at
$335 and the
Canopy Cover LW-6EXT (Light Weight}at $185. Cost is not the issue. My
impression is that the the heay cover is designed to protect parked
airplanes and the light weight models are designed for travel. I
plan to do
a lot of cross-country flying 12 months per year. This includes
exposure to
snow and ice, desert sun, etc., a couple of weeks at a time. The
light
weight cover may not measure up to the heavy duty use, but is the
"continuous duty" cover too heavy and too bulky for travelling -
perhaps
50% of all flight hours. Will the Light Weight travel cover
self-destruct
with winter trips in the north-east and Canada.
I would appreciate any experience or insight. Ernest Kells - RV/9A
(testing
electricals / preparing for the final inspecton)
---------------------------------
Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not
web links.
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 08:11:01 AM PST US
From: Louis Willig
Subject: Something We Really Need
Hi gang,
Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of
hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the
Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others
have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any
one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a
temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK,
do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is
acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and
moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect
weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only
marginal for long term outside storage of an RV.
What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort
of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed
easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance
companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other
aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create
the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a
fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down
Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable.
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 12:21:57 PM PST US
From: "David Leonard"
Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
I'm with you, we really do need something (not really an entirely
new idea
I'm sure). One problem is that my airport will not allow any kind
of a tarp
or awning. Whatever it is would have to be entirely supported by the
aircraft itself...
I have been thinking about some sort of tarp that will cover the
canopy area
supported by clamps on the wings or fuselage. But a reasonable design
escapes me.
--
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On 8/5/07, Louis Willig wrote:
>
>
> Hi gang,
>
> Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of
> hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the
> Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others
> have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any
> one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a
> temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK,
> do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is
> acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and
> moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect
> weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only
> marginal for long term outside storage of an RV.
>
> What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort
> of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed
> easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance
> companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other
> aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create
> the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a
> fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down
> Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable.
>
>
> -
> Louis I Willig
> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
> Penn Valley, PA 19072
> 610 668-4964
> RV-4, N180PF
> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>
>
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 12:46:14 PM PST US
From: "Bayne"
Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
The Plane Pocket may be a suitable alternative.
http://www.planepocket.com/
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips |
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Hi David,
Gnoss is a great airport with lots of interesting airplanes. The area is great and well worth stopping by. There’s a fun winery with a huge selection of other products as well just up the hill. A nature preserve is located next to the airport. The winds can be “interesting”. If the conditions allow landing I’d recommend it. It’s not located very close to anything though. You’ll definitely need a car. I’d be sure to check that you can obtain one once you land.
Dave
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of d wntzl
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:07 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips
Greetings,
I am planning a trip from Apalachicola FL to Fairfax CA later this month and am looking for tips as to routing and or stopovers. I'd rather not contend with any more mountain flying than necessary since I am a flatlander!
Also, is anyone familar with either Gnoss Field (DVO Novato), or San Rafael (CA35)? San Rafale would be closer and more convenient to Fairfax, but it is private. I'll probably be staying in the area for about a week.
Tips, comments, insight, advice all welcome.
Thanks in advance
David Wentzell N233DW Port St. Joe, FL
RV6, 200+ Hrs
RV-List Digest Server <rv-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
[quote]
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Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
Today's complete RV-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the RV-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2007-08-05&Archive=RV
Text Version:
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EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
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RV-List Digest Archive
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Total Messages Posted Sun 08/05/07: 6
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:50 AM - Re: Need source for rivet (Tim Lewis)
2. 07:46 AM - Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or Light Weight (Paul Besing)
3. 08:11 AM - Something We Really Need (Louis Willig)
4. 12:21 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (David Leonard)
5. 12:46 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (Bayne)
6. 04:42 PM - FW: RV4 Project for sale, including engine, tools, instruments (john(at)jallenplace.com)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 05:50:27 AM PST US
From: Tim Lewis
Subject: Re: Need source for rivet
Depending on the application, a 1/4" round head steel screw and nyloc
nut might be an easier solution. The screw will be stronger than an
aluminum rivet, and it won't require a compatible rivet set like the
AN470AD8 will.
--
Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
Travis Hamblen wrote:
>
> I am looking for 10 either AN470AD8 or MS20470AD8 rivets (two
> different part numbers for the same rivet). I realize this rivet is
> REALLY wide for our typical application, but I have a specific need
> and just can not find a source for the rivet! The length is
> unimportant, as I can cut them down to the size I need. If you have
> any information as to where I can get these PLEASE e-mail me! Did I
> mention that once I have these bad boys squeezed into the holes they
> will be filling, the plane will be signed off and first flight will be
> made!! By the way, ACS and the usual sources stop at AD6 rivets!
>
> Travis
> TravisHamblen(at)gmail.com
>
>
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 07:46:36 AM PST US
From: Paul Besing
Subject: Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or Light Weight
I would personally never use a canopy cover for extended periods of time. Over
night maybe, as long as you aren't in a dusty environment. Any dirt under the
cover and when the wind blows, and all of a sudden you have microscratches all
over your canopy. I would consider an internal cover of some sort, not an
external one.
Paul Besing
Ernie & Margo wrote:
Would someone with experience in using both the heavy canopy cover and the
light cover like to comment on their performance.
I am considering the Canopy Cover RV-9/9A (continuous duty) at $335 and the
Canopy Cover LW-6EXT (Light Weight}at $185. Cost is not the issue. My
impression is that the the heay cover is designed to protect parked
airplanes and the light weight models are designed for travel. I plan to do
a lot of cross-country flying 12 months per year. This includes exposure to
snow and ice, desert sun, etc., a couple of weeks at a time. The light
weight cover may not measure up to the heavy duty use, but is the
"continuous duty" cover too heavy and too bulky for travelling - perhaps
50% of all flight hours. Will the Light Weight travel cover self-destruct
with winter trips in the north-east and Canada.
I would appreciate any experience or insight. Ernest Kells - RV/9A (testing
electricals / preparing for the final inspecton)
---------------------------------
Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 08:11:01 AM PST US
From: Louis Willig
Subject: Something We Really Need
Hi gang,
Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of
hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the
Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others
have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any
one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a
temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK,
do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is
acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and
moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect
weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only
marginal for long term outside storage of an RV.
What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort
of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed
easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance
companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other
aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create
the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a
fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down
Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable.
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Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 12:21:57 PM PST US
From: "David Leonard"
Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
I'm with you, we really do need something (not really an entirely new idea
I'm sure). One problem is that my airport will not allow any kind of a tarp
or awning. Whatever it is would have to be entirely supported by the
aircraft itself...
I have been thinking about some sort of tarp that will cover the canopy area
supported by clamps on the wings or fuselage. But a reasonable design
escapes me.
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David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On 8/5/07, Louis Willig wrote:
>
>
> Hi gang,
>
> Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of
> hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the
> Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others
> have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any
> one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a
> temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK,
> do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is
> acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and
> moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect
> weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only
> marginal for long term outside storage of an RV.
>
> What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort
> of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed
> easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance
> companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other
> aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create
> the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a
> fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down
> Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable.
>
>
> -
> Louis I Willig
> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
> Penn Valley, PA 19072
> 610 668-4964
> RV-4, N180PF
> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>
>
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 12:46:14 PM PST US
From: "Bayne"
Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
The Plane Pocket may be a suitable alternative.
http://www.planepocket.com/
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David, St Johns (SJN) in eastern Arizona has the cheapest fuel ($3.67), a friendly staff and free courtesy cars, with a dashboard sticker reading "Use overdrive in high-speed pursuit". The two motels in St Johns are minimalist. Tehachapi (TSP) has $3.99 fuel, and you can remain at low altitude while flying over the Tehachapi pass to the north. The Apple Shed restaurant is a short walk from the airport and has really good food. Next cheapest gas going north is Gustine.
On the way to St Johns, consider stopping at Granbury, Texas (GDJ) for $5 hangar parking with $4 fuel and a courtesy car (and a big bunch of experimentals). Natchitoches in Louisiana has courtesy cars, several neat B&B's, and an old and fascinating city center. Hattiesburg, Mississippi (HBG) is pricey but has good service, including $80 oxygen refils.
Take off at first light to avoid mid-day thunderstorms. I just came over that route last weekend and dodging the buildups was challenging.
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AirMike
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Location: Nevada
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I like I80 route over the Rockies. The southern route is too hot this time of year. Depart Ft. Collins CO go north to intersect I80 and just follow it to the bay area. Max alt is 9500 ft. Do your flying before noon and it is not too bad , but you alway get beat up over Wyoming.
Watch to MOA's in NV, but there is a VRF corridor near Fallon. In So Cal the Edwards AF Base folks shaft you every time with their mega blocks of restricted air space that you cannot go thru. But then again they are protecting our butts.
Gotta go to Gnoss or Oakland. San Rafael is private. Good stops are Ft Collins, Ft. Bridger, Ogden or Salt Lake City, Wendover, Reno (Jet West) and Truckee (5900')
Oxygen is good (higher cooler faster) but you can live without it for one trip. I like to get high and cool
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