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weissmntc(at)earthlink.ne
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 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: EFIS question |
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Dan,
I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are flying
this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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dan(at)rvproject.com
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: EFIS question |
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By Dan I assume you might mean me, so I'm responding.
I know Walter Tondu is flying with a 2 or 3 screen GRT EFIS setup. I'm sure
he can comment on it, although I don't think he has much flight time on it
yet. I know there are lots of others flying with it, so you may want to
post to Doug's VAF Forums (http://www.vansairforce.net and click Forums).
What I've seen of the GRT engine monitor, I don't like. And the EFIS, while
it has a lot of functionality, has a pretty cheeseball screen. Paying
thousands and thousands of dollars for something like that didn't appeal to
me, personally. Everybody has an opinion! I obviously do! 
As far as Chelton goes, I don't understand why people put the megabucks into
those systems. Hangar queens with fancy EFIS systems and they never or
rarely travel. And they surely aren't pounding the IFR hours onto the
plane. Ok, I'm generalizing, but still. For a predominantly VFR airplane,
why the heck do you need all that crap? Another $10,000 to spare sure buys
an awful lot of avgas, tiedown fees, hotels, restaurants, rental cars, etc.
IMHO: Build your plane to be simple, functional, reliable, and SAFE. Then
fly the crap out of it and enjoy the view!
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (800+ hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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jclarkmail(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: EFIS question |
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For a lot of dialog by some GRT users you might want to sign up for
GRT_EFIS(at)yahoogroups.com (GRT_EFIS(at)yahoogroups.com)
and subscribe to the email.
LOTS of happy users and a few pretty pictures every now and then.
James
On 2/13/06, Dan Checkoway <dan(at)rvproject.com (dan(at)rvproject.com)> wrote:[quote] --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan(at)rvproject.com (dan(at)rvproject.com)>
By Dan I assume you might mean me, so I'm responding.
I know Walter Tondu is flying with a 2 or 3 screen GRT EFIS setup. I'm sure
he can comment on it, although I don't think he has much flight time on it
yet. I know there are lots of others flying with it, so you may want to
post to Doug's VAF Forums ( http://www.vansairforce.net and click Forums).
What I've seen of the GRT engine monitor, I don't like. And the EFIS, while
it has a lot of functionality, has a pretty cheeseball screen. Paying
thousands and thousands of dollars for something like that didn't appeal to
me, personally. Everybody has an opinion! I obviously do!
As far as Chelton goes, I don't understand why people put the megabucks into
those systems. Hangar queens with fancy EFIS systems and they never or
rarely travel. And they surely aren't pounding the IFR hours onto the
plane. Ok, I'm generalizing, but still. For a predominantly VFR airplane,
why the heck do you need all that crap? Another $10,000 to spare sure buys
an awful lot of avgas, tiedown fees, hotels, restaurants, rental cars, etc.
IMHO: Build your plane to be simple, functional, reliable, and SAFE. Then
fly the crap out of it and enjoy the view!
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (800+ hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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dwschaefer(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: EFIS question |
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I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units almost 18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might want.
Regards,
On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss <weissmntc(at)earthlink.net (weissmntc(at)earthlink.net)> wrote: | Quote: | --> RV7-List message posted by: "Deb and Bernard Weiss" < weissmntc(at)earthlink.net (weissmntc(at)earthlink.net)>
Dan,
I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are flying
this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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www.n142ds.com
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rv6capt(at)pacificcoast.n
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: EFIS question |
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here here
Dan Checkoway wrote:
[quote]
By Dan I assume you might mean me, so I'm responding.
I know Walter Tondu is flying with a 2 or 3 screen GRT EFIS setup.
I'm sure he can comment on it, although I don't think he has much
flight time on it yet. I know there are lots of others flying with
it, so you may want to post to Doug's VAF Forums
(http://www.vansairforce.net and click Forums).
What I've seen of the GRT engine monitor, I don't like. And the EFIS,
while it has a lot of functionality, has a pretty cheeseball screen.
Paying thousands and thousands of dollars for something like that
didn't appeal to me, personally. Everybody has an opinion! I
obviously do!
As far as Chelton goes, I don't understand why people put the
megabucks into those systems. Hangar queens with fancy EFIS systems
and they never or rarely travel. And they surely aren't pounding the
IFR hours onto the plane. Ok, I'm generalizing, but still. For a
predominantly VFR airplane, why the heck do you need all that crap?
Another $10,000 to spare sure buys an awful lot of avgas, tiedown
fees, hotels, restaurants, rental cars, etc.
IMHO: Build your plane to be simple, functional, reliable, and SAFE.
Then fly the crap out of it and enjoy the view!
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (800+ hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Jerry Grimmonpre'
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Huntley, Illinois 60142
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: EFIS question |
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David ... Please copy me as well I'm going the GRT route ... I found no off-line address for your contact .... thanks, Jerry Grimmonpre' jerry(at)mc.net (jerry(at)mc.net)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: EFIS question |
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David,
Could you CC your comments/advice to me as well please? I'm going GRT as I think it suits me better than the others.
Bevan
RV7A
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Schaefer
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:57 PM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: EFIS question
I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units almost 18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might want.
Regards,
On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss <weissmntc(at)earthlink.net (weissmntc(at)earthlink.net)> wrote: | Quote: | --> RV7-List message posted by: "Deb and Bernard Weiss" < weissmntc(at)earthlink.net (weissmntc(at)earthlink.net)>
Dan,
I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are flying
this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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www.n142ds.com
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skikrazi(at)centurytel.ne
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: EFIS question |
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I flew in an RV-8 after the owner installed two Chelton EFIS’s…..very impressive. However, I have 200 hours on my GRT EFIS in my 7A and I’m not about to trade it in. It is also impressive. I have it coupled to my 430 and TruTrak Digiflight IIVSG. I love the split screen capability on the GRT. I can keep primary flight data on the left screen and a moving map on the right screen of the GRT EFIS. When I am getting close to my destination, a switch on the panel lets me change the auto-pilot from GPS guidance to EFIS guidance. Consequently, when ATC gives me a different heading and a descent during approach, I have to wake up and turn a knob on the EFIS to a different heading and dial in a minus 500 FPM on the TruTrak. I know it takes all the “fun” out of hand flying the plane, but it sure makes single-pilot IMC a tad more comfortable.
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To each his own. It all boils down to what kind of flying you plan to do. If VFR only, save your money and maybe go with the analog 6-pack steam gauges. They still work good. My personal choice is I want to fly IFR when necessary and don’t like vacuum pumps. The GRT EFIS works for me. I was convinced by 2 friends who are airline pilots and put it in their RV’s.
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Chuck
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From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Grimmonpre
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:26 AM
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: EFIS question
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David ... Please copy me as well I'm going the GRT route ... I found no off-line address for your contact .... thanks, Jerry Grimmonpre' jerry(at)mc.net (jerry(at)mc.net)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: David Schaefer (dwschaefer(at)gmail.com)
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To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com (rv7-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: EFIS question
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I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units almost 18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might want.
Regards,
On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss <weissmntc(at)earthlink.net (weissmntc(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Deb and Bernard Weiss" < weissmntc(at)earthlink.net (weissmntc(at)earthlink.net)>
Dan,
I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are flying
this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"
www.n142ds.com
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gmvouga(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: EFIS question |
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David,
Please copy me too. I'm just about ready to order avionics and I was
leaning towards GRT.
Thanks,
Greg
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Reply-To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: EFIS question
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:57:17 -0600
I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units
almost 18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might
want.
Regards,
On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss <weissmntc(at)earthlink.net> wrote:
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> reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are
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> this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
> opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
> expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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