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coop85(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: Engine Logbook

Here’s an odd question that I should know the answer to having built several airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can’t remember.  Regarding documenting the annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state what has to be written in the aircraft logbook.  Is there anything specific that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?  

   

Thanks,  

Marcus  

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mritter509(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: Engine Logbook

Here is my logbook entry:



"I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on 8/4/07 in accordance 

with the scope and detail of Appendix D to part 43 and was found to be in a 

condition for safe operation"



Mark

N410MR





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		  From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85(at)cableone.net>

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Subject: Engine Logbook

Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:32:35 -0500



Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built 

several

airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember.  Regarding documenting the

annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state

what has to be written in the aircraft logbook.  Is there anything specific

that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?



Thanks,



Marcus



40286 - hard to believe it's already been a year!




	


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apilot2(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: Engine Logbook

The funny part is that various FSDOs had a running debate for years on this topic concerning TC aircraft. Some said only in airframe logbook, some said put 100 hour in engine and prop logs, some didn't care. Now there is specific guidance from HQ, that the statement has to be in the aircraft records, but not necessarily in any particular logbook. It sort of leads you to the airframe, simply because the other two may change. 



On 8/16/07, Marcus Cooper <coop85(at)cableone.net (coop85(at)cableone.net)> wrote:[quote]              

Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built several airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember.  Regarding documenting the annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state what has to be written in the aircraft logbook.  Is there anything specific that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?  

   

Thanks,  

Marcus  

40286 – hard to believe it's already been a year!  

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james.k.hovis(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: Engine Logbook

On my old airplane, my IA would record the compression readings, any

engine AD compliance needed, and any other general maintenance and

repair work done to the engine. In the airframe log, basically the

same type information dealing with the airframe along with the engine

work so there are two records of work done to the engine.



Kevin H.

On 8/16/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509(at)msn.com> wrote:

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 Here is my logbook entry:



 "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on 8/4/07 in accordance

 with the scope and detail of Appendix D to part 43 and was found to be in a

 condition for safe operation"



 Mark

 N410MR





 >From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85(at)cableone.net>

 >Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 >To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 >Subject: Engine Logbook

 >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:32:35 -0500

 >

 >Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built

 >several

 >airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember.  Regarding documenting the

 >annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state

 >what has to be written in the aircraft logbook.  Is there anything specific

 >that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?

 >

 >

 >

 >Thanks,

 >

 >Marcus

 >

 >40286 - hard to believe it's already been a year!

 >



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Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.co
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: Engine Logbook

Marcus,

  

 My experience is that if  you state that the "aircraft" has been inspected, that covers the engine  too as far as being legal.  The problem with that is you end up with a big,  blank engine log which isn't of much value if you ever separate the engine from  the airframe.  So, for customers I generally write an entry for each  logbook, including prop if there is one, telling what I did.

  

 One philosophy is to  document as little as necessary.  Less ammo I suppose.  I more or less  go the other direction.

  

 However...my own RV-10  logbook will essentially merge the flight and maintenance log.  Pertinent  engine/prop/avionics mx will get photocopied and filed separately.   Hopefully the Excel format (attached) will allow me to easily transfer the  original paper to the spreadsheet.

  

  Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters LLC

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 

 831-722-9141

 831-750-0284 CL

 www.AirCraftersLLC.com

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Here’s an odd question  that I should know the answer to having built several airplanes prior to the  RV-10 but can’t remember.  Regarding documenting the annual conditional  inspection the operating limitations specifically state what has to be written  in the aircraft logbook.  Is there anything specific that needs to be  documented in the engine logbook? 

  

Thanks, 

Marcus 

40286 – hard to believe  it’s already been a year!

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james.k.hovis(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: Engine Logbook

Here's the logic for recording engine related data in the engine: On

my old AA-1A, it had a STC'd 160hp engine that came from a Cherokee.

There wasn't hardly any data in the logbook from when it was in the

Cherokee, especially AD compliance. (Note: I bought the airplane from

a couple guys who bought it to fix up and resell) When the previous

owners to me bought the bird (my IA was one of them), they went

through the engine and even tracked down the Cherokee it came out of

to be sure the list of AD's against that model engine had been

complied with. Keeping maintenence notes on the engine in the engine

log also helps track condition trends and if you ever swap out an

engine in the future, the new owner of the old engine will have a good

paper trail to track back to.



Kevin H.



On 8/16/07, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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		   The funny part is that various FSDOs had a running debate for years on this

 topic concerning TC aircraft. Some said only in airframe logbook, some said

 put 100 hour in engine and prop logs, some didn't care. Now there is

 specific guidance from HQ, that the statement has to be in the aircraft

 records, but not necessarily in any particular logbook. It sort of leads you

 to the airframe, simply because the other two may change.



 On 8/16/07, Marcus Cooper <coop85(at)cableone.net> wrote:

 >

 >  Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built

 > several airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember.  Regarding

 > documenting the annual conditional inspection the operating limitations

 > specifically state what has to be written in the aircraft logbook.  Is

 there

 > anything specific that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?

 >

 >

 >

 > Thanks,

 >

 > Marcus

 >

 > 40286 – hard to believe it's already been a year!

 >

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