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Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane 

Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or  B&C 

($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10.  The Plane Power 

price and simplicity are quite appealing.  I've heard good things about 

Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field.  B&C 

also has a very good reputation.  So I'm seeking experiences, both good 

and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C) 

alternator.



Thanks,



Tim Lewis



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RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs

RV-10 #40059 under construction

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n142ds(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

I have two B&C alternators... one 60AMP and one 20AMP on the vaccuum pad.  They just work !  No problems so far.



Regards

On 8/16/07, Tim Lewis  <Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu (Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu)> wrote:[quote]--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Lewis < Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu (Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu)>



I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane

Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or  B&C 

($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10.  The Plane Power

price and simplicity are quite appealing.  I've heard good things about

Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field.  B&C 

also has a very good reputation.  So I'm seeking experiences, both good

and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)

alternator.



Thanks,



Tim Lewis



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RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"

TMX-IOF360 FADEC, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS

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Gary.A.Sobek

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Location: SoCAL USA

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

B&C 60 A alternator and B&C regulator.  All the problems that I have had (3) 

are from wiring problems that were MY problems.  Twice I had a bad 

connection and one was a wire that had the insulation rub off and 

intermittently shorted to ground killing the alternator output.  B&C 

troubleshooting guide that they have on their web site was used to find all 

the problems that I caused.  Problems that I caused were spread out over 

almost 10 years.  I made the airplane's first flight in September 1997.



B&C alternator and regulator has had no problems in almost 10-years of 

operation.



Gary A. Sobek

"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,

2,050 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA





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From: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu>

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Subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C 

alternators

Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:26:18 -0400






I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane Power 

($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or  B&C ($595 + $228 

for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10.  The Plane Power price and 

simplicity are quite appealing.  I've heard good things about Plane Power, 

and have heard of only a single failure in the field.  B&C also has a very 

good reputation.  So I'm seeking experiences, both good and bad, from people 

who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C) alternator.



Thanks,



Tim Lewis



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RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs

RV-10 #40059 under construction





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Vanremog(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

In a message dated 8/16/2007 5:29:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu writes:

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		  So I'm    seeking experiences, both good 

and bad, from people who have put a few    hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)  

alternator.

	


 

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 Tim-

  

 B&C 60A running A-OK since day one.   

 GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 864hrs, Silicon Valley,  CA)



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gmcjetpilot

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

Tim: there both good but you hit the nail on the head cost. Both have good products and service. 

   

  I can point out to some nice features of the Plane Power unit that the B&C does not have:

   

  -Custom cooling fans for proper rotation (B&C runs stock fan backward)

  -High Altitude Brushes

   

  Plane power also like B&C is anodized, balanced and they use top parts. Plane power manufactures many parts in house.

   

  The OV production uses the same type of crow-bar OV module that Bob recommends and B&C sells, but it is integrated into the unit.

   

  You can't go wrong with either, but one advantage that may not be obvious is getting an emergency temp replacement on a X-C trip. Away from home base, the plane power could in a pinch be replaced with a stock alternator from  an automotive parts store. Even though the Plane power units are modified, the wiring is basically the same as a stock internally regulated alternator. 

   

  Plane power has a larger output unit 70 amps verses 60 amps. If you want to accept the weight, I would consider the 70 amp unit, especially if you are going with a fancy panel and inflight entertainment. It's about 3 lbs more. It's nice to keep your total load below say 50-60% of max rating. It's simple math, heat. Lower the heat the better the service life/reliability. Since the Plane-power has the regulator on-board, protecting it from heat with heat a shield and blast tube is value added.

   

  Cheers George

   

   

  

From: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu>

Subject: Seeking  good and bad experiences with Plane Power,

 B&C alternators

I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane 

Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or  B&C 

($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10.  The Plane Power 

price and simplicity are quite appealing.  I've heard good things about

 

Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field.  B&C

 

also has a very good reputation.  So I'm seeking experiences, both good

 

and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)

 

alternator.



Thanks,



Tim Lewis



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RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs

RV-10 #40059 under construction

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Vanremog(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

In a message dated 8/17/2007 7:22:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  gmcjetpilot(at)yahoo.com writes:

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		  Plane    power also like B&C is anodized, balanced and they use top  parts. 	


 

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 I believe that George meant to say alodined (chem film per MIL-C-5541)  rather than anodized (per MIL-A-8625) because, if you were to anodize the  housing, you would have to do it selectively (not in the area that makes chassis  ground contact), since anodizing is insulative.  My B&C is chem filmed  and chem film (chromate) is conductive.   

 GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 864hrs, Silicon Valley,  CA)



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

Alternatively consider the Denso 100211-1680 alternator, available brand new from many sources for about $200.  Its rated at 42A and weighs 6lbs.  This is the same alternator that Niagara Airparts used to sell, and it has built-in OV protection.  I have had one for 700+ hours and its been rock-solid reliable.  The most appealing thing about this alternator is the availability of it as a rebuilt unit at a local auto parts store.  Once I had a friend I was flying with have an alternator crap out on a trip, and we were able to get him going again after a short hop to the a auto parts store after landing at the nearest airport along our route.  His alternator was one of Van's old 35A units. 



I have a source for these new alternators, email me off-line if interested.  Niagara will still sell the brackets for $75.00.



Regards,

Bob Japundza

RV-6 flying F1 under const.

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter

Bob,

  

 I have one of Van's original (circa 1990) 35A  alternators on my -4. Do you know whether a Denso 100211-1680 will fit the mount  (boss type) that came with that alternator? If so, could you give me some  info about cost for a new alternator that you alluded to  below?

  

 Thanks,

  

 Ivan Haecker    -4     1381hrs.  S. Cen TX

 (also with F-1 under very slow  construction)

  

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Alternatively consider the Denso 100211-1680    alternator, available brand new from many sources for about $200.  Its    rated at 42A and weighs 6lbs.  This is the same alternator that Niagara    Airparts used to sell, and it has built-in OV protection.  I have had one    for 700+ hours and its been rock-solid reliable.  The most appealing    thing about this alternator is the availability of it as a rebuilt unit at a    local auto parts store.  Once I had a friend I was flying with have an    alternator crap out on a trip, and we were able to get him going again after a    short hop to the a auto parts store after landing at the nearest airport along    our route.  His alternator was one of Van's old 35A units. 



I have    a source for these new alternators, email me off-line if interested.     Niagara will still sell the brackets for $75.00.



Regards,

Bob    Japundza

RV-6 flying F1 under const.

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