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Mark.Napier(at)sciatl.com
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

I've bought an HKS 700e and want to start making a motor mount for it.

I'm flying on my 582 but want to sell it outright or part it out.  I

hate to do it now that good flying weather is coming but have to

sometime.



So the parts for sale are:

* 582 engine with ~190hours on a new crankshaft, ~12 hours on new Pro-X

pistons and all new engine seals.  Yes, the crankshaft seals are the

red-lined ones from Rotax$$$.

* C gearbox 3:1 gears and new seals; prop-shaft and gear service letter

done by South Mississippi.

* Mag end electric starter set.

* Engine mount for later model 3 that should fit most models.  White

powder coated.

* Ceramic coated exhaust system - still looks great, no corrosion.

* EGT probes for same.

* Oversized radiator for Georgia/Florida weather.

* Standard radiator for winter.

* Set of radiator vanes to control air through standard radiator ->

needs final trimming and set up, needs a Bowden cable.

* Cabin heater and fan.

* All heater/cooling hoses and pipes.

* Pulse fuel pump with fresh (12 hours) overhaul kit.

* Brass cooling filler pipe/Cap and plastic overflow bottle and mount.

* Nalgene plasic oil bottle and metal mounting frame.

* GSC Tech III prop and spinner -> the blades are old but I'm still

flying them.

* 2 Key West Voltage regulators.

* Westach water temp gauge and probe.

* Rotax tachometer.

* Rochester Voltmeter

* Rochester Ammeter.



I'm currently flying this plane and hope to be out this weekend and some

next weekend but eventually will have to pull the engine to start the

motor mount.  If the flying weather gets too nice it may be later in the

fall.  If someone want to come see it or go flying in it let me know.  I

have lots of pictures available as well.



Cheers,



Mark Napier

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

Any prices??

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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

Hello Mark. It's amazing how close your FWF is to my own. Almost 

identical. In any case I'd be very interested in performance numbers on 

your new engine package. I have a mid-time 582 also and would like to 

replace it come rebuild time. The HKS is one option, the 912 is the 

other as the Jabiru dealers here in Canada have proved unreliable. I 

suspect the HKS might come close to the Jabiru in some respects with 

it's lower prop RPM.     What model are you flying?



Napier, Mark wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  I've bought an HKS 700e and want to start making a motor mount for it.

I'm flying on my 582 but want to sell it outright or part it out.  I

hate to do it now that good flying weather is coming but have to

sometime.

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torgemor(at)online.no
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

Mark,



Isn’t the old 532 "flat plate" mount, -the same as the HKS-700 mount??



Cheers.



Torgeir.

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:28:49 +0200, Napier, Mark <Mark.Napier(at)sciatl.com>  

wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I've bought an HKS 700e and want to start making a motor mount for it.

 I'm flying on my 582 but want to sell it outright or part it out.  I

 hate to do it now that good flying weather is coming but have to

 sometime.



 So the parts for sale are:

 * 582 engine with ~190hours on a new crankshaft, ~12 hours on new Pro-X

 pistons and all new engine seals.  Yes, the crankshaft seals are the

 red-lined ones from Rotax$$$.

 * C gearbox 3:1 gears and new seals; prop-shaft and gear service letter

 done by South Mississippi.

 * Mag end electric starter set.

 * Engine mount for later model 3 that should fit most models.  White

 powder coated.

 * Ceramic coated exhaust system - still looks great, no corrosion.

 * EGT probes for same.

 * Oversized radiator for Georgia/Florida weather.

 * Standard radiator for winter.

 * Set of radiator vanes to control air through standard radiator ->

 needs final trimming and set up, needs a Bowden cable.

 * Cabin heater and fan.

 * All heater/cooling hoses and pipes.

 * Pulse fuel pump with fresh (12 hours) overhaul kit.

 * Brass cooling filler pipe/Cap and plastic overflow bottle and mount.

 * Nalgene plasic oil bottle and metal mounting frame.

 * GSC Tech III prop and spinner -> the blades are old but I'm still

 flying them.

 * 2 Key West Voltage regulators.

 * Westach water temp gauge and probe.

 * Rotax tachometer.

 * Rochester Voltmeter

 * Rochester Ammeter.



 I'm currently flying this plane and hope to be out this weekend and some

 next weekend but eventually will have to pull the engine to start the

 motor mount.  If the flying weather gets too nice it may be later in the

 fall.  If someone want to come see it or go flying in it let me know.  I

 have lots of pictures available as well.



 Cheers,



 Mark Napier

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Torgeir



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Engine: Rotax 532 with B gearbox

Propeller: IVO UL 366Q



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propellerdesign(at)tele2.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

The BMW 1100S is a modern engine that don't cost a  lot, modern electronic injection, cheep on fuel, cheep to buy, 85-90 useful HP  (depending on RPM) the torque is almost  constant, I have pic from a guy in  Poland that replaced his VW 1835 with a BMW he more then doubled the climb rate.  speed up to VNE on his dragy TULAK (highwing side by side plane, MTOW 450 kg /  1000 lbs)

  

 The pic is big is size so if any one want to see I  can send to your private mail. 

  

 Jan  

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Mark.Napier(at)sciatl.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

I looked for a BMW engine.  The "C" gearbox with 3:1 gearing is supposed

to be a good match.  However, those engines are hard to find and

expensive here in the southeast US.  Also the all up weight is heavy for

a Kitfox III but probably is about the same as a full electric VW.  I

agree, however, that the low-speed thrust and power from that package

would be very impressive.



 



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Mark.Napier(at)sciatl.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

Forgot to give a price.



I would like $3K for everything.



 



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propellerdesign(at)tele2.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

This is some  words from Jakub in Poland. //Jan.

  

 In fact .. I'm  former user of VW now. My solution was BMW modern R series bike engine. Jan know  me as one from aviation BMW enthusiast, I spent few last years in this  project... and finally, after aeroconverting ~35 engines,  I'm installing  it in my plane. 

I am part of non commercial  group of BMW enthusiasts formed around <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =  "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Czech Flying  School near Ostrava. My personal  responsibility is electronic and wirings. 



First - the power, I recommend  BMW 1100S or 1150RT, R, RS, all have around 80-85hp(at)6850rpm (max at 7200 is more  than 90hp advertised) 



Second - the weight... Engine  with Czech PSRU have 78kg (dry, no oil cooler and no exhausts). The CoG is 20cm  from flat back of engine (From alternator ark   

had to see photo,  



Third - the fuel consumption...  0.167kg/hp/h (when typical for other engines is 0.225) its fuel injection!!! In  normal terms - typical and well known CH601 ZODIAC fly patterns in flying school  10 l/h. Amazing... isn't it? 



Fourth -  the  price... look, all our engines came from wrecked bike, You can buy it in  excellent state for 1100-1300-1500 EURO, then PSRU will cost from cheaper Polish  800 EURO thru great and quite cheap Czech 1200-1400 EURO to expensive German  unit 2400EU.  I preferred Czech one... 

You will need wiring  conversion, You can do it yourself or I can do it for You (~200EURO). Put it all  together in one hour... and will have strong and reliable unit. (The clean  engine will be untouched.) Proven in many installations.  



Fifth - known problems:  vibrations (its two cyl, boxer) need well designed engine frame, centrifugal  clutch - causing bigger drag when disengaged, hot exhaust problematic in  wooden/epoxy designs, hot oil need really big cooler. Big height of engine can  make problems with installation too. Former versions of PSRU had a lot of  problems. Now - all are fixed. All problems we had, all are cured now. (Can You  believe so we did ~25 sets of internal PSRU parts till got good  results?) 

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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: 582 Fireward Forward for Sale

Would like to see that please, Mike

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