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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: No slats Reply with quote

After careful consideration, I have decided to build my new 701 without slats and with vgs and longer wings. The slats are already built by the previous owner. I have to admit they are not workmanship up to my standards but they are ok and as good as most. They are now for sale with brackets, real cheap. Pick up only. E-mail me with an offer I can't refuse. I'm talking about, like almost take them off my hands.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: No slats Reply with quote

OH, NO not you too Larry!!!!!!! Sorry I couldn't resist, just kidding.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: No slats Reply with quote

Hi Larry,  I must have missed something in the VG/slat discussion.  Why are you increasing the wing span?   Most reports I am aware of, the standard wing was used.   Jerry 

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After careful consideration, I have decided to build my new 701 without slats and with vgs and longer wings.  The slats are already built by the previous owner.  I have to admit they are not workmanship up to my standards but they are ok and as good as most.  They are now for sale with brackets, real cheap.  Pick up only.  E-mail me with an offer I can't refuse. I'm talking about, like almost take them off my hands. 

Larry, www.SkyHawg.com, N1345L
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: No slats Reply with quote

Check out the longer wing page. http://www.stolspeed.com/content.php?id=48, Larry
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: No slats Reply with quote

I've been working on my Ch801 for some time now, and I decided to
convert it to a low wing, because I like bubble canopies. I chose also to
remove the slats because I wanted more speed. I then converted it to a
laminar flow airfoil. After that I decided in order to reduce drag a composite wing was just the ticket. Decided the fueslage was kind of
boxy so I reshaped it, and converted it to a sexy composite based
shape. Oh, then of course to further reduce drag I converted the
gear to retractable.

But darnit all, if I had only known that pulling the slats was considered by
the FAA to be a Major change, and I violated my airworthiness cert by
NOT getting it reinspected ... I wouldn't have gotten busted!

I guess I should have just bought a Lancair to begin with ...

Regards,
Jeff


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: No slats Reply with quote

Thanks for that reference.   I had been on the site several times but messed that  page somehow.   JG's reasoning based on real  world experience is compelling.  I too am leaning toward eliminating the slats and installing VGs and maybe a longer wing too to complete the package.  I wish that someone in addition to  JG had already done the mods and could confirm the performance figures he is claiming.   I was going to start with the wings next week but will hold off a bit.      Jerry

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: No slats Reply with quote

There is a savana in Nth Qld with the VGs and VG wing mod with 80HP Rotax and From what I have heard the cruise speed is no better than my CH 701 with 80 hp Rotax 70 knots 5200rpm 2 up. if you want an improvement in speed use 100hp Rotax cruise 80 Knots
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