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talew(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: Va. crash

I read with interest the comments posted with the  Va. photos.

  

 First let me say that I think the pilot should buy  a lottery ticket asap.He was damn lucky to walk away from that  mess.

  

 However to assert  that he was intentionally IFR , or scud running , when this happened is a guess  and is predjutial to the pilot in an  investigation.

  

 He may just as well have been legally VFR on top  and had a problem that required an immediate descent.

  

 You can guess or second guess about this kind of  accident over coffee as much as you want, however ,we should be careful what we  say about other pilots on this list.

 Terry Lewis

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Scooter

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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: Re: Va. crash

It doesn't appear that anyone asserted the pilot was scud running, etc.  You might be referring to the photos and captions which seem to come from the owner of a nearby property.  He sort of implies that the pilot flew into the mountain but this may just be the natural assumption from a non-pilot.  The NTSB will figger it out.

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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: Va. crash

Agree whole heartedly with what you said Terry. The best way to find out the ifs in this case is wait on the FAA’s final report. For the curious, you can go call up the weather for that area at the time of the accident as well as get the elevation at the impact area. While at it look a the prevailing winds, the grade of the elevation, the presence or absence of fuel in the tanks. Probably did since there was post impact fire. The curling of the prop edges or in the case of wood, were they shattered indicating power was being made a the time of the impact. The angle of the scarring on the trees and measure the distances from the intial contact with the tree tops along with the height at which the first contact was made with the trees. Also measure the depth of the furrows dug by the airframe from the time it first contacted the ground until it came to rest. Also, will need to do a 72 hour life history on the pilot. Don’t forget to look at the Radar tapes and any communications with ATC along with interview all available witnesses.   

If you do all that, then you can make a determination as to whether he was scud running or not. Until the report is made public, all else is pure speculation.  

Doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Lewis

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I read with interest the comments posted with the Va. photos.  

    

   

    

First let me say that I think the pilot should buy a lottery ticket asap.He was damn lucky to walk away from that mess.  

    

   

    

However to assert that he was intentionally IFR , or scud running , when this happened is a guess and is predjutial to the pilot in an investigation.  

    

   

    

He may just as well have been legally VFR on top and had a problem that required an immediate descent.  

    

   

    

You can guess or second guess about this kind of accident over coffee as much as you want, however ,we should be careful what we say about other pilots on this list.  

    

Terry Lewis  

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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: Va. crash

That's the understatement of the year. 



Mark Bittelich

 



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david(at)mcgirt.net
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: Va. crash

Although I think we now know what it takes to tear the wing off a Yak..

Damn..



I could picture Sergey (burned and broken bones) telling the guy how to

drive down the mountain in his broken English though.. Hehe





On 8/28/07 5:07 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"

<mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil> wrote:



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 That's the understatement of the year.

 

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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: Va. crash

It was a Sukhoi-31.  One of the best ones I have ever seen.  Engine mods

put it easily over 400 HP.  Probably around 430 or so.  I'm just glad he

is alive, although he is in significant pain from the burns.  Sergei

walked out of the hospital because it "costs too much".  He has had a

bad year. My heart goes out to him.



Mark Bitterlich

 



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