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martyn(at)flight.co.za
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

Hello,



Has anybody here installed a Balistic recovery Parachute system to thier

701. If so what make and where did you attach the device.



Sincerely



Martyn Ward

CH701 - ZU-DPL

zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

BRS Installation Blueprints, this is the installation manual for the BRS

system in the 701. However, I would like to go on record that I have a

grave issue ( yes I chose my words correctly) with installing a BRS into

the 701. However, it is my personal opinion. Please research it closer

and make your own mind up. Check out the conditions in which you can

actually deploy it, think about a ROCKET mounted behind your head. I

personally believe they are a bigger danger to a pilot then flying the

plane (especially a 701 at 30mph) to a landing spot of about 100 feet to

save the plane, 10 feet to save yourself and most of your plane. Please

call me crazy if you wish, that's fine by me as I said this is just my

opinion but research the installation and usefulness of the BRS system.

Don't just take the hype at face value, research the planes design and

check the FAA record for Fatalities ( 701 has none with over 1000

flying)



http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/data/701-brs-chute.pdf



I'm not against the BRS product, don't misunderstand that point, I

believe there are many planes that would benefit from the installation (

most Cessna's for example, in fact any plane that requires over 1000ft

of runway. But in a 701 I believe it is a bigger danger to have one

installed then not to.



The 701 is one of the safest planes I have ever flown, just in a time of

quiet reflection when that big fan may stop turning, (or you clip a tree

on final! You know who you are) then do what was drilled into your head

all those years ago FLY THE PLANE !!! Don't give up and pull a rocket,

in most instances you will be able to fix any hard landing in a 701, Ask

Jon Croke on that matter. If you pull a chute on a 701 you're buying a

new kit, the attachment points are not designed for the loads that will

be introduced. 



For those of you who may not know Jon, please read his story at 

http://www.ch701.com/stories/stories.htm 

He is humble enough to share his experience so that others may not fall

into the same trap.



Mark Townsend

Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.

president(at)can-zacaviation.com

www.can-zacaviation.com 



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Balistic Recovery Parachute

Since we are talking about chutes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1PX7G0u0yI

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

RLOER(at)aceweb.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

That was a bad thing!

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PatrickW

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 380
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Balistic Recovery Parachute

What about the 601XL...?



Patrick

XL/Corvair

ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.ne
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

[quote][b]

rloer(at)aceweb.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

Why do I get posts like the one below that appear to be blank? Am I doing something wrong?

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

I get them too sometimes, it's usually a glitch on the sender's end. 

Usually caused by HTML content getting stripped off. If you view the 

message source you can usually read the text of the message that was 

sent unless it really was a blank e-mail.



Robert Loer wrote:

[quote] 

 Why do I get posts like the one below that appear to be blank? Am I 

 doing something wrong?

 

 

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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.

rloer(at)aceweb.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

Good tip. Thanks



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stshuck2(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

So what about a Balistic Recovery system for the 601? Anyone have any information?



Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net> wrote:  [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin 



I get them too sometimes, it's usually a glitch on the sender's end. 

Usually caused by HTML content getting stripped off. If you view the 

message source you can usually read the text of the message that was 

sent unless it really was a blank e-mail.



Robert Loer wrote:

[quote] 

 Why do I get posts like the one below that appear to be blank? Am I 

 doing something wrong?

 

 

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

>  So what about a Balistic Recovery system  for the 601? Anyone have any information?

 

 Scott  has the nicest installation I've seen:

  

 http://www.cooknwithgas.com/BRS.html

  

 Also  look on the Photo guide CD for this file:  extras\brs-chute-601.pdf

  

  

 --  Craig 



   [quote][b]

Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Balistic Recovery Parachute

Scott has a bunch of photos of his installation on his site.



http://www.cooknwithgas.com/BRS.html

 	  stshuck2(at)yahoo.com wrote: 	
		  So what about a Balistic Recovery system for the 601? Anyone have any information?

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

agibeaut

Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 64

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

For what its worth, I get the same thing.

  

 Do not archive

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alhays(at)hickoryhillfarm
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

Art & Robert,



I've been getting the same thing but usually can get the text displayed 

by going to the "View" drop down menu and selecting "Plain Text 

Alternative" under "Message".  It's a nuisance.  I'm using a Mac so 

wonder if it also happens to the PC Windows guys.



Regarding the ballistic recovery chutes for 701s and 601s, I considered 

it for the 701 but came to the same conclusion as Mark from Can-Zac 

expressed so well in an earlier post.  I considered it more seriously 

for the 601 but the same rationale applies to some degree.  I also had 

to consider the service life of the rocket is 12 years, a chute repack 

every 6 years, initial cost, loss of baggage space and some weight 

involved.  I suppose it may make some passengers feel safer, but others 

may ask why the chute is needed if it's supposed to be so safe.



Al Hays

ZenVair 601XL



Gore, VA

On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Art Gibeaut wrote:



[quote] For what its worth, I get the same thing.

  

 Do not archive



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ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: Balistic Recovery Parachute

Al,

The e-mail option you describe is only available if

your using MS Outlook and I'm not.  I use the SBC

yahoo browser to send e-mails.  I will check my e-mail

settings to send plain text in lieu of HTML format.



In relation to the BRS, I have only personal opinions

to offer; trust a proven design and your piloting

abilities which leads me to, if its time to leave this

world it would be better than going in a lazy boy, as

long as know one else was hurt during the event.



do not archive

Art





--- Al Hays <alhays(at)hickoryhillfarmsheep.com> wrote:



[quote] 

 <alhays(at)hickoryhillfarmsheep.com>

 

 Art & Robert,

 

 I've been getting the same thing but usually can get

 the text displayed 

 by going to the "View" drop down menu and selecting

 "Plain Text 

 Alternative" under "Message".  It's a nuisance.  I'm

 using a Mac so 

 wonder if it also happens to the PC Windows guys.

 

 Regarding the ballistic recovery chutes for 701s and

 601s, I considered 

 it for the 701 but came to the same conclusion as

 Mark from Can-Zac 

 expressed so well in an earlier post.  I considered

 it more seriously 

 for the 601 but the same rationale applies to some

 degree.  I also had 

 to consider the service life of the rocket is 12

 years, a chute repack 

 every 6 years, initial cost, loss of baggage space

 and some weight 

 involved.  I suppose it may make some passengers

 feel safer, but others 

 may ask why the chute is needed if it's supposed to

 be so safe.

 

 Al Hays

 ZenVair 601XL

 

 Gore, VA

 On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Art Gibeaut wrote:

 

 > For what its worth, I get the same thing.

 >  

 > Do not archive

 >

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