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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

My AMD-made 601 has four long strips of non-skid tape on the wing roots right on the rivet lines. After slightly less than one year the tape is shabby, The upwind edges are peeling and it has generally faded and lost all of its grit. See my photo at http://mostlyflying.blogspot.com

So, HELP! Has anyone ever removed this kind of tape from a painted surface? Will it take the World's supply of Goo-Gone? I'd rather just have the white paint. SInce I either wear Crocs or boat shoes to fly, I don't need non-skid. Any ideas on how to get rid of the tape and what to do then? Who has done it?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

That's terrible. Especially since there is non-skid tape out there that lasts YEARS AND YEARS.

I would consider replacing it though instead of just removing it. While you know where to stand when you get in the tape shows passengers where to step.
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My AMD-made 601 has four long strips of non-skid tape on the wing roots right on the rivet lines. After slightly less than one year the tape is shabby, The upwind edges are peeling and it has generally faded and lost all of its grit. See my photo at http://mostlyflying.blogspot.com

So, HELP! Has anyone ever removed this kind of tape from a painted surface? Will it take the World's supply of Goo-Gone? I'd rather just have the white paint. SInce I either wear Crocs or boat shoes to fly, I don't need non-skid. Any ideas on how to get rid of the tape and what to do then? Who has done it?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

AMD must be using some cheap tape or not preparing the surface very
well. The 3M brand non-skid tape on my Zodiac is still holding strong
after 3 years and shows no signs of losing its grit.

I don't know how to remove the tape on your plane but since it is
already peeling off in the wind, it shouldn't be too hare to remove the
rest of it. On mine I originally had two 4" strips on each wing root and
later decided to remove it and cover the entire inner 12" of the wing
root with the tape so that I wouldn't have to polish the bare metal
between the strips. I just carefully peeled the old tape off. Most of
the adhesive stayed stuck to the tape and what little was left on the
wing I wiped off with paint thinner. In fact, the adhesive left on the
tape was still so sticky, I actually re-used some of it to fill in the
gap between the inner edge of the new tape and the fuselage. I also
wrapped some of the old tape around the entry step. Even the used tape
is still stuck securely in place. The tape on the wing roots is stuck to
pare metal and the step was painted before I put the tape on it. It
seems to stick just as well either way.

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My AMD-made 601 has four long strips of non-skid tape on the wing roots
right on the rivet lines. After slightly less than one year the tape is
shabby, The upwind edges are peeling and it has generally faded and
lost all of its grit. See my photo at http://mostlyflying.blogspot.com

So, HELP! Has anyone ever removed this kind of tape from a painted
surface? Will it take the World's supply of Goo-Gone? I'd rather just
have the white paint. SInce I either wear Crocs or boat shoes to fly, I
don't need non-skid. Any ideas on how to get rid of the tape and what
to do then? Who has done it?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

Well, I know that when I removed the factory decals off of my truck, to prepare for painting, I took a heat gun and heated it up and then the adhesive softened up and I was able to peel it right off. Before I heated it up, there is no way I was going to get it. Now, be careful, those heat guns get really hot, so start out way above the strip and work your way down to find the right distance. You do not want to burn your paint. Also, I did little sections at a time instead of trying to do the whole piece at once.  Once it was removed, I used Goof Off to remove what little adhesive was left on the paint. I do not see why this would not work on your plane as well. I can not say for sure, since there is no paint on anything of mine yet?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

Frank,
I'd advise you to try a steam iron and peel it very slowly at low tension.

I'd also recommend you use the Ray Allen company material to cover the
rivets and all.
Their product is not gritty is easy to install and not terribly costly.

The sheet is placed exactly to position, lifted one end and separated
from the peel strip
and laid down. The other end is then lifted and the peel strip is
removed and again the
piece is lowered to position. It can be pressed down tight over each rivet
using a common pin to release air and a AN5 nut to get contact all round
each rivet.

Goes down nice. I'm sure you'd like it much more than bare paint too.

My wing as done see link,
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/wingwalk2.gif

**www.rayallencompany.com/products/accessories.html.
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Frank Derfler wrote:
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My AMD-made 601 has four long strips of non-skid tape on the wing
roots right on the rivet lines. After slightly less than one year the
tape is shabby, The upwind edges are peeling and it has generally
faded and lost all of its grit. See my photo at
http://mostlyflying.blogspot.com

So, HELP! Has anyone ever removed this kind of tape from a painted
surface? Will it take the World's supply of Goo-Gone? I'd rather
just have the white paint. SInce I either wear Crocs or boat shoes to
fly, I don't need non-skid. Any ideas on how to get rid of the tape
and what to do then? Who has done it?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

guys,
follow Larry's recommendation its a good one, and if you cant get the backing to come off, do the best you can then tape it off and use truck bed liner spray over the area. its thick enough to cover the residue of the tape and sturdy,

juan

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

I've wondered if putting the wing walk tape or spray or paint on the port
wing is why there are complaints of "left wing heavy". Must play havoc with
the air flow.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

Dave,And everyone else out there ,How common is "heavy port wing"? I have
that problem ,and it need's to be addressed, on my thing's to fix or
adjust.All input is welcomed..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

Hi, not there yet, but I would guess the drag induced by the pitot tube, AOA
Probe, landing light and my own fat butt in the left seat might cause it!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

Dave, I used the self stick sheet and have had no problem with it. Bought from Spruce, cut to fit.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

Juan said:

“do the best you can then tape it off and use truck bed liner spray over the area.”

Years ago I had an all aluminum fishing boat (19ft). It had traction strip tape all over the deck when I got it. Most of it was pealing just like your picture. I used my thermal shrink hot air gun (for shrinking tubing around wires and covering model airplanes) and slowly heated up the tape and it pulled off very easily. I had no paint but agree that too much heat might burn the paint. Take your time and be careful.

After the tape was removed, I masked it off and used truck bed liner paint. I found that masking tape didn’t pull off very well after the liner paint. The paint was too thick and the masking tape just tore up. I had to use a razor blade to cut the edge of the paint at the tape. I tried duct tape and it worked wonders. It was strong enough to “cut” the paint at the masking edge. Get a new roll with clean edges and be sure to seal them well as with all other masking. The stuff lasted well with a great deal of abuse until I sold the boat 4 to 5 years later.

Good luck,

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Reply with quote

Heat gun sounds good. If you have to scrape, use a plastic scraper, maybe a windshield ice scraper. You may be able to soak it with acetone under the edges too.

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