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Eric_Kallio

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 149
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

With some aircraft flying now what are your thoughts on an ILS capable antenna. I was considering the Comant CI-158C as my #1 Nav and the archer wingtip as my #2 (which is already installed). From what I found in the archives the ILS really wasn't mentioned too much. What kind of feedback can you all provide on this and are there any good installation pictures out there?



Eric Kallio

40518 Baggage floors

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

We have used the Archer antenna with surprisingly good results.  The

reception distance is very good.  The wingtip Com's are not that great

because of the orientation, but we are very happy with the results from the

wingtip Nav.  Just my $.005 (half cent, which may be more than it is worth).



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Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

www.saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

I'd say if you have enough signal to drive a VOR, the ILS will work fine on same antenna via a splitter. I'm currently running two navcoms, both with GS via one cat whisker antenna and splitters. Works fine.



 On 10/3/07, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>



We have used the Archer antenna with surprisingly good results.  The

reception distance is very good.  The wingtip Com's are not that great 

because of the orientation, but we are very happy with the results from the

wingtip Nav.  Just my $.005 (half cent, which may be more than it is worth).



Do not archive



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc. 

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

www.saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

Eric_Kallio

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 149
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: Re: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

Do you have any pics of your cat whisker antenna install? I have been scanning builders sites and haven't found any.



Eric Kallio

John Kirkland

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 19
Location: South Weber, UT

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: Re: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

Doug Reeves site vansairforce dot net had some pictures yesterday (Oct 3) that show a RV-10 just out of the paint shop. Cat whiskers on the VS top rib just below the rudder counterweight arm. Interesting.....



Edit: just noticed its here too, thread titled "Plane Completion Pictures." Wayne Edgerton, #40336, N602WT. Take a look at how he did his.

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

FYI The SL-30 has NO provision for  a seperate LOC/GS antenna. It has an 

internal diplexor, if the aircraft has dual antennas, it requires  they 

be combined into a single  input. Don;t know if this isi also true of 

the other Garmin radios (430/480/580)



 Deems Davis # 406

'Its all done....Its just not put together'

http://deemsrv10.com/



Kelly McMullen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I'd say if you have enough signal to drive a VOR, the ILS will work 

 fine on same antenna via a splitter. I'm currently running two 

 navcoms, both with GS via one cat whisker antenna and splitters. Works 

 fine.



     *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List



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pilotdds(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

The 430 has a provision for seperate gs/vor inputs.After much experimenting I used a bowtie ant attached to the support strut inside the cabin. Excellent reception on the ils for both localizer and g.s..---728DD.Wingtip archer ant. doesnt do nearly as well and has areas of poor reception during vectors.

 

 

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

The 430 is just the opposite, it has an input for the both Nav and GS.  Need

a splitter if you only have one antenna.  



Rene' Felker

N423CF

40322

801-721-6080

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carl.froehlich(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

Why not a simple wire or copper tape dipole antenna in the bottom half of

the cowl?  Easy, cheap, and for all practical applications just as effective

as any other antenna.  If you don't want to use a VOR/GS splitter you can

put in two.



Carl Froehlich

RV-8A (350 hrs)

RV-10 (wings)



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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

The 480 has the same setup as the SL-30, internal diplexer, I suspect the 430 and 530 are too. It's nice because I used a comant spliter on my Nav antenna and sent one lead to each, my 480 and the SL-30. I may add the V antenna to the tail if the performance is below par...we shall see. Everyone else using the setup has no complaints so I should be good to go. 



Rick S.

40185

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

The 430 has a separate connection for GS and Nav, so you need an external

diplexer.



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Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

www.saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: VOR/LOC/GS antenna

Yeah, I know. I still am in the world of equipment designed in the '80s 

like KX155 and MK12D that all took separate nav and gs antenna inputs.

Many of the panels discussed here have more $$ involved than I have in 

my current aircraft(that is well equipped with steam guages 90s stuff).

Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 FYI The SL-30 has NO provision for  a seperate LOC/GS antenna. It has 

 an internal diplexor, if the aircraft has dual antennas, it requires  

 they be combined into a single  input. Don;t know if this isi also 

 true of the other Garmin radios (430/480/580)

 Deems Davis # 406

 'Its all done....Its just not put together'

 http://deemsrv10.com/

 Kelly McMullen wrote:

> I'd say if you have enough signal to drive a VOR, the ILS will work 

> fine on same antenna via a splitter. I'm currently running two 

> navcoms, both with GS via one cat whisker antenna and splitters. 

> Works fine.

>

>     *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

>

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