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Steve Boetto
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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At 10:17 PM 10/5/2007, N27SB(at)aol.com wrote:
Quote: | Seems that I remember someone was looking for a filter like this early this year.
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That's better than most of the tractor gascolators I've seen... but I was looking for something with a drain, like I had on my '41 T-Craft.
I now have one of the inline filters with a glass body from the auto parts store on my Ultrastar... not as convenient, but I can unscrew the ends if I really need to.
-Dana
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Steve Boetto
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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At 10:51 PM 10/5/2007, N27SB(at)aol.com wrote:
Quote: | Dana,
the best thing I have seen is the Andair Microgascolator, but it is Pricey. Available at Wicks AC
[img]cid:5.1.0.14.2.20071005231619.00c04ec0(at)mail.comcast.net.0[/img]http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html |
Those do look nice, but they still lack the combination of features that seems to be no longer available... a clear bowl so you can see what's inside, AND a drain valve.
-Dana
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Thom Riddle
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: Re: fuel filter160163215628 |
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Our Allegro has a small glass bowl gascolator w/o a drain so we were looking for an equivalent with a drain but could not find one. We ended up buying one from Great Plains Aircraft for $36. Metal bowl but inexpensive and well built. See attached photo. It takes a standard 1/8" NPT threaded Curtis or Safe-Air drain valve.
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Steve Boetto
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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Dana,
I was told years ago that the glass bowl was retired on AC because it was prone to break. Use a sample cup and check your gascolator before each flight. BTW, the Hoop and Cup style gascolators should be safety wired. It is a little cumbersome but there is a standard method.
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JetPilot
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: Re: fuel filter160163215628 |
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Here is the Gascolator that is going on my Kolb. It is meant for experimental aircraft, and is only 67 dollars. Comes with a drain and a modern unbreakable design.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/acsgascolator.php
Glass is prone to cracking and breaking. Seems if you want glass, you are getting so focused on one issue, that you are ignoring the more important breakage issues. You cant see gas in the fuel drains on most Cessna and other GA aircraft... If you want to see the fuel coming out, drain in a clear container.
Mike
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lcottrell
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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The only problem that I see with it is that of where do you mount it so that
you can use a "dealy bob" to check the fuel in it? I made one of the pvc
types and mounted it to a plate on the bottom of my cage and the drain
sticks out the bottom. Piece of cake to check. Interestingly I have never
found water in any amounts in my fuel since installing.
Larry, Oregon
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John Hauck
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 4639 Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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Quote: | Interestingly I have never
found water in any amounts in my fuel since installing.
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Larry K
Because there is no water in high desert, SE Oregon?
Well.......I take that back. Sometimes when John W and I land there, we
bring a thunderstorm or two, with us.
john h
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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John Hauck
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 4639 Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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> If you plan on ever using pump gas in your Mk-3, do not use that ACS
Quote: | gasculator! Pump gas will ruin its gasket in a couple minutes and it will
leak like hell.
Ask me how I know? Thegasket only holds up to 100ll.
Denny Rowe
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Denny R:
Probably why they sell a replacement gasket for auto fuel
REPLACEMENT GASKETS
AUTO FUEL 10536-1 06-00441 $5.45
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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Kolbers..
Guys I think this is the same gascolator I ordered from
Aircraftspruce and it also said that it was not to be used with auto gas. I
ordered it anyway because I could not find one like I wanted except one for
a farm tractor. I went over to the auto parts store and bought some gasket
material that was compatible with gasoline and cut a new gasket. That was 5
years ago and I have never had a leak.
Bill Futrell
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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At 08:32 AM 10/6/2007, N27SB(at)aol.com wrote:
Quote: | Dana,
I was told years ago that the glass bowl was retired on AC because it was prone to break. Use a sample cup and check your gascolator before each flight. BTW, the Hoop and Cup style gascolators should be safety wired. It is a little cumbersome but there is a standard method. |
Yes, apparently they had problems when the gascolator was mounted to, and shook with, the engine. Firewall or frame mounted gascolators were OK.
I've got a transparent filter now that can be disassembled if necessary, so I'm satisfied.
-Dana
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:07 am Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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Denny R:
Probably why they sell a replacement gasket for auto fuel
REPLACEMENT GASKETS
AUTO FUEL 10536-1 06-00441 $5.45
john h
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John, Thom,
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That is good news, ACS did not have that back a couple years ago, I guess my
old gasculator is not worthless after all. I even went to the trouble of
machining a bowl from billet that used a viton o ring but was unhappy with
the weight, I never tried Thoms idea of using a differant gasket material.
Thanks,
Denny
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: fuel filter160163215628 |
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"Mike,
If you plan on ever using pump gas in your Mk-3, do not use that ACS
gasculator! Pump gas will ruin its gasket in a couple minutes and it will
leak like hell.
Ask me how I know? Thegasket only holds up to 100ll
Denny Rowe "
Ditto on the gascolator from Great Plains, and wait till you try to mount
it.
The bail bends, the thumb screw is next to impossible to center, then you
have to safety wire it.
I threw mine out!
I got the blue aluminun jobbie from Spruce.
2 ports out plus one 1/8 for a primer.
Direct mount.
Vic
Maine
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