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HawkerPilot2015

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 503

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

A friend of mine is thinking about a Yak-52 and had some questions. I told him everyone does things a bit differently but I would try to get a consensus. 



So, beginning with you opening your hangar door, what is your routine? I am talking pre-flight to start-up (how many times do you prime, pull the prop through..stuff like that) to take off (climb power settings) cruise (speed -vs-power settings -vs- fuel flow) then out to the play box for some acro (power settings-fuel flows) back to the pattern and landing. (Speeds on base, final, and flare) (When do you put the gear down...flaps out)



Lots of questions but I am trying to bring a new Yak owner to the fold. He is a UPS guy with some cash to burn. (I have already given him the name of one person here who sells them) He is also talking abou a CJ6 and I have passed along some info for that airplane as well. 



He, like everyone else, really needs a -50. He is a retired fighter guy and loves the -50 but wants another seat.

cpayne(at)joimail.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

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HawkerPilot2015

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 503

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Day to Day ops.....

There has to be a limit to everything! Suks are a bit pricey!

viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

He’ll regret that if he ever flies a 50!  

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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

How about a NEW Yak 54!  Found out today they are back in production.

Dennis



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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

I don't know about that Doc.... Have you ever flown a Sukhoi SU-29?

It'll eat a YAK-50 for breakfast.  It does not have the slow speed

handling that the 50 does, but that's because of the wing the 50 has.  I

tend to agree with Craig.  Further, it has much more fuel... Etc., etc. 



On the other hand, there is the matter of price..... Which is going to

be about 5 times that of the 50.  



Mark Bitterlich

  



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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

Really?  Where and for how much?  Super airplane.  I might consider

letting go of the 50 for one of those.  



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

Yeah but neither the 54 or the 29 fold their feet up. If I am thinking of

the same aircraft.

Doc



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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

I'll find out more details and let you know.

Dennis



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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: Day to Day ops.....

No, you're right, they don't (have retractable gear).  However, they can

pull way way more G than the 50, and in my opinion carry more energy

than the 50.  I will say that the ones I have experience with all had

400 HP PF model engines and also the 3 blade MT-9-260's, and my poor 50

was struggling along with 360 HP and a 2 blade.  Right there I am pretty

much hosed... But side by side speed comparisons left me in the dust.

The 29 was simply faster.  My low speed performance was better than his,

but he never had to GET that low to kick my butt.  



Just as a side note, I'll never forget going into the break with Hubie

Tolson on my wing.  He was tucked in tight, (on the right) and I mean

RIGHT THERE tucked in.  I decided to intentionally lose the guy, and I

left full power on and just pulled as hard as I could after a full

deflection roll to 90 degrees left.  I pulled over 7 G's in that break,

and when I rolled level he was RIGHT THERE, laughing his butt off at me.

Of course I am not in the same league with Hubie, but it still amazed

me.  



Mark

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