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wild.blue(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: 8130.2F

Gents--

  

 I've just been reading 8130.2F, Change 3, dated April 18, 2007, looking for the changes that have been mentioned here recently, I.e., elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation.  No can find.  Is there a Change 4 or a later version of 8130?  Where can I find it?  For those of you who have gotten the Proficiency Area Limitation expunged from your Airworthiness Certificate:  what protocol did you follow to get it removed?  Is a Program Letter/amendments still required?  Have other changes been made besides elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation?

  

 Jerry Painter

 Wild Blue Aviation

 JP(at)FlyWBA.com (JP(at)FlyWBA.com)

 www.FlyWBA.com

 425-876-0865

  

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ReadeG(at)Cairnwood.com
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: 8130.2F

Jerry:  

The elimination of the proficiency area was by memo dated 9-11-07 from the FAA.  See the EAA War Bird site for a complete description of the process.     

Reade Genzlinger  

Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation  

mailto:readeg(at)cairnwood.com (readeg(at)cairnwood.com)  

215.914.0370  

  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Painter

 Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:56 AM

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 Subject: 8130.2F  

  

  

              

Gents--   

      

    

      

I've just been reading 8130.2F,   Change 3, dated April 18, 2007, looking for the changes that have been   mentioned here recently, I.e., elimination of the Proficiency Area   Limitation.  No can find.  Is there a Change 4 or a later version   of 8130?  Where can I find it?  For those of you who have gotten   the Proficiency Area Limitation expunged from your Airworthiness   Certificate:  what protocol did you follow to get it removed?  Is a   Program Letter/amendments still required?  Have other changes been made   besides elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation?   

      

    

      

Jerry Painter   

      

Wild Blue Aviation   

      

JP(at)FlyWBA.com (JP(at)FlyWBA.com)   

      

www.FlyWBA.com   

      

425-876-0865   

      

    

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coolade(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: 8130.2F

Jerry, we have new ops limitation letters in hand for out two Yaks. My 

FSDO inspector requested an email referring to the memo which 

eliminated the nautical mile limit. He issued new airworthiness 

certificate and new operating limitations in about a week. When asked 

about the annual program letter requirement, he advised it is still a 

requirement but will be eliminated with the revision to 8130.2f being 

revised now but not yet released.  Ade Hale --Tulsa

On Oct 20, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Jerry Painter wrote:



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		   Gents--

  

 I've just been reading 8130.2F, Change 3, dated April 18, 

 2007, looking for the changes that have been mentioned here recently, 

 I.e., elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation.  No can find.  

 Is there a Change 4 or a later version of 8130?  Where can I find it?  

 For those of you who have gotten the Proficiency Area Limitation 

 expunged from your Airworthiness Certificate:  what protocol did you 

 follow to get it removed?  Is a Program Letter/amendments still 

 required?  Have other changes been made besides elimination of 

 the Proficiency Area Limitation?

  

 Jerry Painter

 Wild Blue Aviation

 JP(at)FlyWBA.com

 www.FlyWBA.com

 425-876-0865

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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: 8130.2F

Jerry,

 This is an excerpt directly from 8130.2F Change  3.  It appears on page 169.  c(3) is the paragraph you're looking  for.  

 Dennis

  

  

c. Group III, Piston-Powered: Warbirds,  Vintage, Replica, and Unique Aircraft. 

(1) Description of Aircraft.  This group includes former military  aircraft that were designed 

for military operations. Vintage  aircraft are those aircraft that were designed before 1945. Replica 

aircraft are those aircraft that have  the same external configuration as an aircraft that was designed 

before 1945. Unique aircraft are those  aircraft that are one-of-a-kind. 

(2) Type of Aircraft. This group includes U.S. piston-powered Warbirds (regardless  of size) 

and non-U.S. piston-powered aircraft  under 12,500 pounds that meet the above description and do not 

have a design capability of carrying  cargo or more than four occupants. Aircraft that operate under this 

group include the North American T-28,  Lockheed P-38, North American P-51, Messerschmitt ME-109, 

Boeing B-17, North American B-25,  DeHavilland DHC-1 Chipmunk or Tiger Moth DH-82A, 

Focke-Wulfe Piaggo (FWP)-149, Nord  Stampe SV4C, and Bucker Jungman BU-131. 

(3) Proficiency Area. All proficiency flights for an aircraft under 800 horsepower  will be 

conducted in airspace within an  operational radius of 300 nautical miles from its designated home  base 

airport. Aircraft 800 horsepower and  above will be limited to an operational radius of 600 nautical miles 

from their designated home base  airport.

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