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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

Folks,

 I am considering grafting a pilot door into ZK-DCF, a 500A.

 The door and surrounding structure will come from a written - off  500S, I am told the internal structure around the area is the same, does anybody know any different, or are there any serious practical pitfalls in such a modification.

 Cheers,

 Bill Hamilton



 



 

  



 



 



 



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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

Hi Bill,



I'm pretty sure the structure on your -A would be the same as the -B and 

-S models. I'm sure Jimbob or similar will chime in quickly and set me 

straight if I'm wrong!



Mostly I'm chiming in because I saw that you were quoted in our US AOPA 

Magazine back in June, in an article called "A Cautionary Tale" about 

user fees, CASA, and the state of GA down under. It mentioned your 

tireless support of a strong GA environment there, and your success in 

Light Sport without onerous CASA oversight. We're going to have to take 

some lessons from you here in the US if things keep going the way 

they're going...



Sorry to hijack your posting,



/John



W J R HAMILTON wrote:

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		   Folks,

 I am considering grafting a pilot door into ZK-DCF, a 500A.

 The door and surrounding structure will come from a written - off  

 500S, I am told the internal structure around the area is the same, 

 does anybody know any different, or are there any serious practical 

 pitfalls in such a modification.

 Cheers,

 Bill Hamilton





  



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tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.n
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

Bill,The person that knows how to put doors in 500B is John Towner.

All of his 35+ aircraft have the front door.  Most of his aircraft are 500B that did not come with front doors.  The are used to haul freight at night.

The door is the easy part.  It is the door frame that you need to remove from the other aircraft.  

I have flown a 500 with out and one with and the front door is a great feature.

Tylor Hall



On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:15 PM, W J R HAMILTON wrote:

[quote] Folks,

 I am considering grafting a pilot door into ZK-DCF, a 500A.

 The door and surrounding structure will come from a written - off  500S, I am told the internal structure around the area is the same, does anybody know any different, or are there any serious practical pitfalls in such a modification.

 Cheers,

 Bill Hamilton



 



 

  



 



 



 



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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

Tyler,

Thanks for that, we are (if we go ahead) going take a complete piece 

out of the wrecked 500S, door and frame.

Cheers,

Bill Hamilton





At 14:11 17/10/2007, you wrote:

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		  Bill,

The person that knows how to put doors in 500B is John Towner.

All of his 35+ aircraft have the front door.  Most of his aircraft 

are 500B that did not come with front doors.  The are used to haul 

freight at night.

The door is the easy part.  It is the door frame that you need to 

remove from the other aircraft.

I have flown a 500 with out and one with and the front door is a 

great feature.

Tylor Hall

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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

John,

 Thanks for the kind words, it is a continuous battle, but at least the grass roots end, Recreational Aviation, is alive and well. 

 Given some of the recent recruitment to CASA, we seem to be dealing with industrial grade Indian bureaucracy layered on top of an already Have a look at  http://www.auf.asn.au/, aircraft `like the Jabiru (1200 + sold) do everything a C-152 does, but they are 20kt faster, about a third the cost to operate, and 10,000 h airframes in flying school service are showing no sign of deterioration --- a testimony to wet layup, instead of pre-pregs.

 Cheers,

 Bill Hamilton



  



 

 At 14:01 17/10/2007, you wrote:

 [quote]--> Commander-List message posted by: John Vormbaum <john(at)vormbaum.com>



 Hi Bill,



 I'm pretty sure the structure on your -A would be the same as the -B and -S models. I'm sure Jimbob or similar will chime in quickly and set me straight if I'm wrong!



 Mostly I'm chiming in because I saw that you were quoted in our US AOPA Magazine back in June, in an article called "A Cautionary Tale" about user fees, CASA, and the state of GA down under. It mentioned your tireless support of a strong GA environment there, and your success in Light Sport without onerous CASA oversight. We're going to have to take some lessons from you here in the US if things keep going the way they're going...



 Sorry to hijack your posting,



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dongirod

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 140

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

Bill;

  

 I had nothing to do with it but, N2707B a 560E has  had a pilot door installed and it works great.  A big  convenience.

  

 Don

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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

No Problem, the structure is the same. I put a front door in my 560F. Lot  of work but well worth it. FYI the front door was originally developed for the  military. The Aero Commander was the first aircraft used to develop Side Looking  Radar for the Army. It blocked the cabin door so they need the front door to get  in the aircraft.

  

 Bill Leff



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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: Pilot Door.

Bill,

 Very interesting historic note, thanks for that.

 Cheers,

 Bill Hamilton



 



 At 14:58 20/10/2007, you wrote:

 [quote] No Problem, the structure is the same. I put a front door in my 560F. Lot of work but well worth it. FYI the front door was originally developed for the military. The Aero Commander was the first aircraft used to develop Side Looking Radar for the Army. It blocked the cabin door so they need the front door to get in the aircraft.

  

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