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 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: Must be the fumes |
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A review of my comments on alcohol show that I said absolutely nothing about isopropanol. The message is appended below so you can review it yourself.
However, IF I had said it was in after shave lotions, window cleaner, solvents, and rubbing alcohol, I would have been correct. Your statement that I said it and it's wrong is therefore wrong on both counts.
[quote] From: viperdoc(at)mindspring.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: pneumatic cancer
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:01:12 -0500
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Ron,
You are correct on the ethanol (ethyl alcohol). But do not drink the 90% isopropyl alcohol that is OTC at the drug store as a rubbing alcohol. It does contain contaminates that are not to healthy (isopropyl alcohol). It causes headache, dizziness, confusion, and excitation. All pretty much similar symptoms of Ethyl alcohol ingestion( Budweiser, Tequila, wood grain alcohol ect). It just gets uglier with the more you consume causing obtundation, coma, respiratory depression, hypothermia, , hypotension, mylopathy, and hemolytic anemia. Concentrations greater that 66 mmol/L are fatal. It does not cause blindness unlike methyl alcohol. Methanol above 60 mmol/L will cause obtundation, convulsions, coma and increased osmolal gap. The blindness is a late manifestation from the increased anion gap, metabolic acidosis, with the retinal injury being due to the acidosis causing a secondary accumulation of formic acid, lactic acid and ketones in the vitreous humor of the posterior chamber of the eye permanently destroying the retina. Those are late manifestations occurring 15 to 20 hours or later after ingestion.
So what else do you want to know about the 3 most common alcohols that man has intentionally and accidentally poisoned him/herself with?
And yes you are absolutely incorrect Isopropyl alcohol (not methyl alcohol) is found in after-shave lotions, antifreeze, window cleaner, solvents, and rubbing alcohol. Its’ metabolite is acetone.
Methanol is found in shellacs, varnishes, paint removers, Sterno, windshield-washer solutions and copy machine fluids to name a few. It is also a denaturant used to make ethanol unfit for consumption. And it really will make you go blind!
So the devil really is in the details.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Davis
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:20 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: pneumatic cancer
Ethanol is a component of scotch, bourbon, vodka, and gasahol. It is available in high concentration in many states from liquor stores where it is sold as Everclear or grain alcohol. Ethanol does not cause blindness when consumed in any reasonable quantity.
Industrial ethanol is labeled as poisonous either because it has been de-natured (poisoned) to make it undrinkable and thus avoid the excise tax on drinkable ethanol, or it is labeled poisionous because in today's world pretty much everything is labeled poisionous despite the fact that people have been making ethanol from grapes, corn, barley, and even rice (Budwiser) for thousands of years.
Blindness does result from drinking methanol, AKA wood alcohol. Methanol may be available at the drug store, but it is incompatable with some types of rubber (which is why it isn't used in gasoline) and it's probably a bad idea to put it in your pneumatic system before determining if it is compatible.
The devil is definitely in the details.
[quote] Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:32:24 -0500
From: viperdoc(at)mindspring.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: pneumatic cancer
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
moonshine or Tequila is clear also! Shine definately will clean that linseed oil out of the system or clogg it up. Just depends on site and date of manufacture.
But seriouisly if you want to mix 50:50 gylcerine to ETOH, you can get 90% ethyl alcohol for most pharamacies (Rite Aid has it over the counter).
Don't drink the ethyl alcohol please! You'll go blind!
Sic
Doc
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